Evolution? How?

How about if we shift the discussion to if hydrogen is or contains a living entity?

Does hydrogen move, feed, does it reproduce does it attract to the sun?

YES...

All of the elements are the children of hydrogen...

What is the fiber of an atom? Is it energy(heaven) is it matter(earth)? How can such a complex world come out of something with no complexity within?

God has a complex mind...

Nonsense - but then thats to be expected, I suppose, given the source.
That in particular circumstance matter and energy may and do arrange in such manner as to effect life in no way imparts to matter and energy the attribute of life; life is but one of many possible, and evident, arrangements of matter and energy.

He's largely talkin' to himself, Big Bird, so nothing to see here . . .

Chaos created matter and energy?

Will the ridiculous statements never end?

No.

I'll agree for a change.I just got back from the pub and I'm feeling quite mellow and cool and don't wish to start any controversial discussions at this time of night.

can you burp out a complete sentence?

One of the most honest, forthright statement I've seen on this thread for a week. The pub can make one feel very spiritual -- that's why they call it spirits. To start controversy just for the sake of starting controversy is a fool's game. There's really no controversy here -- just those that still believe they know an intelligent being created the Universe, or at least they "suspect" it, and for their own mental well-being and to answer their fears about randomness will gnash and gnarl that they aren't understood and are victims.

(I do suspect myself that there is some inorganic, non-thinking material in some poster's heads, like rocks).

Energy and matter, heaven and earth...

So it appears science and the Bible are both seemingly on the same track to start off with...

Yet it there comes a point down the road where they both diverge...

All was fine with this theory until Einstein...

Einstein proposed that it was the unsolid that made the solid.

Energy equals matter at the speed of light...

Well this seemed to cause thousands of years of understanding to crumble before our eyes.

If energy equals matter than matter cannot move faster than the speed of light and that creates a closed system. This seems to PROVE that God cannot exist... that God cannot be everywhere at once because nothing can move that fast through our physical world. Not quite...

Yet this theory seems to be every closer to being disproved.

I believe our physical world is only one small band along a broadband of energy. And like how music is a pleasant melody out of the chaos of noise so we hear only a small band of the total sound spectrum we see only a small band of the light spectrum. We can measure only a small band of the energy spectrum... Yet the energy spectrum is far from a closed system outside our limited perspective.

So for science to say they understand energy when they can only see possibly a tiny band of the total energy spectrum is like seeing the tooth fairy...

Will you please cease your attempt to convince everyone that inanimate objects are living??

RedRex,

I'm am amazed at how, even though you might not believe there are fairies at the bottm of the garden, you are still looking for them.

whatabout EINSTEINIUM???

This is how the pessimist and the optimist test worked:

1. A pessimist was placed into a room full of horseshit. Within twenty minutes he was howling, "Get me out of here."

2. An optimist was placed into the same room. To the amazement of those looking through the two-way mirror, he was tearing through the horseshit, tossing it aside and revealing patches of floor.
They let him out and asked, "What on Earth were you doing in there?"

Well, said the subject, "With all that horseshit, there must be a horse in here somewhere."


Remind you of anyone?

Well, since only small amounts of Einsteinium have ever been produced, it currently has no real uses, plus it's got a pretty short half life, but they say the mind that burns twice as bright lasts half as long, so that must prove that rocks have brains.Nothing comes to mind (pun).

Brains sometimes have rocks but rocks do not have brains. Aren't you listening?