Evolution? How?

aperson wrote:

real life wrote:

aperson wrote:

The answer to this topic seems simple to me. How come, even when stacks of evidence are piled up infront of them, some stubborn people still refuse to believe. Like I said earlier, you can believe in God and evolution. Is it possible that Genesis' description of the creation of Earth is metaphorical?

It is possible. I don't think it likely.

Even if it were, that doesn't answer the 'how' of evolution, which is the topic.

Simply stating that something evolved doesn't explain how it did.

Evolution, as stated in my post to Ros, seems to me to be filled with lots of contradictory assumptions.

If you believe that evolution is the process by which life on Earth got to the stage we see it in today, then perhaps you'd like to address the question I asked Ros about.

Most evolutionists, in their more candid moments, will tell you they don't know for sure a lot of the 'hows' of evolution. But they are just sure it happened.

It's a strange position when you think about it.

The "how" of evolution??? Isn't this simple??? Surely educated persons would know this? Please describe the "what" of the "how" we are discussing.

Could someone answer my question?

Living rocks? I don't tiiiiiiink sooooo.

As for the living rocks theory, the bacteria feed on the nutrients and minerals on the rocks. Feeding is essentially the passing on of energy. Living things require energy to live. Bacteria can't survive on the minerals alone.

In order for a thing to pass as living, it must have 7 characteristics:

M ovement
R espiration
S ensitivity
G rowth
R eproduction
E xcretion
N utrition

This is why rocks don't pass as living, as they have none of these. This is also why viruses don't pass as living, as they only do one of these things - reproduction - and even then they can't do this without the presence of another cell. Plants are classed as living:

M ovement - move towards the sun
R espiration - breathe in air, let out oxygen
S ensitivity - sensitive to gravity (growing upwards) and light (turn to face the sun)
G rowth - obviously
R eproduction - obviously
E xcretion - dead leaves drop off
N utrition - absorbing nutrients from the ground

Note:
Plants don't get energy from other organisms, they make it (photosynthesis) and this requires energy from the sun.

This is ridiculous. Rocks move around the sun because gravity makes them. Are we saying that everything that is affected by gravity is alive??? Any biologist will tell you ROCKS ARE NOT ALIVE. And rocks joining together is not reproduction. It is simply rocks joining together. Rocks only move because other things move them. When I said movement I ment by itself. I mean, we could just go ahead and say everything is alive, but we don't.

I suggest we move on and stop dicussing this.

aperson wrote:

This is ridiculous. Rocks move around the sun because gravity makes them. Are we saying that everything that is affected by gravity is alive??? Any biologist will tell you ROCKS ARE NOT ALIVE. And rocks joining together is not reproduction. It is simply rocks joining together. Rocks only move because other things move them. When I said movement I ment by itself. I mean, we could just go ahead and say everything is alive, but we don't.

I suggest we move on and stop dicussing this.

I did not say that rocks are alive because they join together...

You did...

And biologists know exactly what life is?

They have test tubes containing pure life essence and analyze it in their labs?

Rocks move by gravity which is something inherent within them (legs)...

So far Timber has answered my question the most detailed, and then a few others helped.

But I still would like to know where these homo-eructus came from? Were they here many many years after this organic soup started spittin' out creature-like fish and evolving?

Listen to this:

Dr.Whacko wrote:

We are not looking to do anything illegal. Ever since 1999, when this property was given to the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ, we have not knowingly submitted God's church to any lesser authority. Our decision to build without permits from the county was based on our understanding of the Bible and, to a lesser degree, the constitutions of the united States and the State of Florida.

Big mistake. But I'm sure it's not their last.