cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:19 am
I think your clarification for my statements are pretty safe; we agree on most reinteratioins about this topic.
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Eorl
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 09:10 pm
El Diablo wrote:
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I have an idea that may be right i dont know. In the past animals (like monekys) chose mates based on how strong and physical they were (this is general sure there may be oddities). However the early human(oids)s began to value intelligence in picking mates. Suddenly the early human(oid)s could dominate not because of size but because of intelligence. If brains starts being the most valued ot has greatest chance of evolving which is why humans havent gotten stronger but we have gotten smarter.


I think you are on the right track there El, but it does not have to be a change of mating "choice" that develops better intelligence.

In a competitive environment where the dumb kids don't live to maturity, increased intelligence in the population is pretty much a foregone conclusion.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 10:21 pm
rosborne979 wrote:
RexRed wrote:
rosborne979 wrote:
RexRed wrote:
It only makes sense that if the earth/sun can make life they logically are alive. I not only think rocks could be living but light is possibly "alive" too...


Please define what you mean by "life".


animation, inspiration...


I see.

You're not an engineer by trade, are you?

An Artist maybe?


Ok how about things with breath...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 10:26 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Jack, I wouldn't presume that humans are the only creatures aware of who they are. Elephants cry when they lose somebody in their pack. Additionally, we have often heard that elephants have good memories. How do we know for sure they are not transferring messages from generation to generation? The abilities of some animals are amazing by their special skills beyond human capacities. Dolphins can follow food sources and inanimate objects in the water whether they are blinded or their hearing plugged. Birds fly thousands of miles in their migration every season. I just don't feel completely at ease to write off the abilities and skills of animals.


How can you tell if an elephant has been in the refrigerator? Their fingerprints are in the butter...

Why can't an elephant ride a bike? Because their fingers are too fat to ring the bell...

ok nevermind...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 10:28 pm
A dogs nose is a million times stronger than a humans. A million...
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Eorl
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 10:34 pm
Plenty of living things do not breath...in fact I think I could safely say MOST do not breath.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 10:47 pm
Some breath but do not have any brain.
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Eorl
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:06 pm
Some can even type C.I. Wink
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:06 pm
RexRed wrote:
Ok how about things with breath...

I thought you said that light was alive...
RexRed wrote:
It only makes sense that if the earth/sun can make life they logically are alive. I not only think rocks could be living but light is possibly "alive" too...

You seem to be wandering a bit aimlessly with your logic.

Generally, life is associated with metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:11 pm
RexRed wrote:
A dogs nose is a million times stronger than a humans. A million...

I apologize for not having read this entire long thread, although I have read much of it. There may be a tendency to specialization in the evolutionary process in which animals sometimes fall into a particular niche. With dogs, I suppose it would be tracking predators and prey, and fierce fighting. With a chameleon....well, that's obvious. Birds...escape in 3 dimensions. For humans it's intelligence plus a kind of mediocre but decent ability in most other things.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:21 pm
rosborne979 wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Ok how about things with breath...

I thought you said that light was alive...
RexRed wrote:
It only makes sense that if the earth/sun can make life they logically are alive. I not only think rocks could be living but light is possibly "alive" too...

You seem to be wandering a bit aimlessly with your logic.

Generally, life is associated with metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.


I thought about light and rocks when I wrote that (things with breath) and I still think they are "alive".
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:22 pm
I think the duality in atoms is life...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:26 pm
I think photosynthesis is breath also...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:29 pm
All creatures are godly... but not all are spiritual...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:35 pm
What separates us from animals?

The love of God...

People think the love of God? What is that, for a human to conceive of and love God? No...

The love of God is, God's love... God's love in us...
can a dolphin figure this out?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:45 pm
I am starting to agree with PETA in some ways...

If we could stop feeding off life to make life... using atoms "nuclear" to make energy.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:48 pm
I think we need a sunbelt.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:51 pm
Will we require nuclear fusion?
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paulaj
 
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Reply Tue 29 Mar, 2005 01:35 am
Why don't you just keep it simple folks and open your minds eye first.

There you will find the sunbelt. And the light will pass through easier with the eyes open.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 29 Mar, 2005 04:56 am
paulaj wrote:
Why don't you just keep it simple folks and open your minds eye first.

There you will find the sunbelt. And the light will pass through easier with the eyes open.

I don't need that. I've been taught science in school, and it works fine, as witness we are using computers to speak on the Internet, sitting in rooms completely manufactured by technology that started out as science. I don't think religion can make a similar claim to verification.
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