cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 09:54 pm
Chumly, To people liike rl, science is only a theory equal to creationism and not observed. Why anybody bothers to explain anything to anybody with a calcified brain like rl is beyond my understanding too! A merry-go-round is more practical; it has a purpose.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 09:55 pm
Chumly wrote:
Hi Real Life,

How do you suppose evidence is obtained if not scientifically? By magic perhaps?


It's all a matter of the mind.......I think? lol
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 09:57 pm
Chumly wrote:
real life wrote:
It's very illogical for you to keep referring to evolution as if it were a branch of science.
Prove evolution is not science.


My statement was that evolution is not a branch of science.

Chumly wrote:
real life wrote:
Again, a branch of science is not the 'evidence'.
This makes no sense semantically, or logically.


Since you seem to have quite a bit of trouble getting your terms straight, we'll leave your opinion on semantics aside.

Chumly wrote:
real life wrote:

If you found a fossil, you would see evidence i.e. the condition the remains were in when found, the location, etc and you would use the principles of these various disciplines to draw conclusions as to what the critter ate, etc. The principles of these branches of science are the tools to help you understand the evidence. They are not the 'evidence' itself.
If what you say had a glimmer of logic, then DNA testing and forensic science would not be allowed as evidence in a court room.



DNA testing is not 'evidence'. The DNA itself is the evidence and you test (the test is a tool, a measuring stick if you like) it to determine it's content and properties.

Then you might draw a conclusion (based on the test, not based on what your opinion was before the test. Or the test may be inconclusive and not furnish you with the basis for a firm conclusion. i.e you may find that the data can be understood in more than one way.)
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 09:58 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Chumly, To people liike rl, science is only a theory equal to creationism and not observed. Why anybody bothers to explain anything to anybody with a calcified brain like rl is beyond my understanding too! A merry-go-round is more practical; it has a purpose.


What scientific evidence have you of rl's brain being calcified? lol

Your brain tells you this? What...without evidence? Your belief in his brain being calcified is incredulous.

Just teasing.
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:03 pm
Chumly wrote:
Hi Real Life,

How do you suppose evidence is obtained if not scientifically? By magic perhaps?


How is evidence obtained? Well, sometimes folks just trip over it.

When they get up and dust themselves off, then they look at what they tripped over and say "looka here what I found! I wonder what it is?" Laughing

Great, er, question Chumly......
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:05 pm
Bartikus wrote:


It's all a matter of the mind.......I think? lol


I think you mean 'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

Laughing
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:08 pm
real life wrote:
My statement was that evolution is not a branch of science.
What is it then a twig?
real life wrote:
Since you seem to have quite a bit of trouble getting your terms straight, we'll leave your opinion on semantics aside.
Why? Don't you want to make sure I understand?
real life wrote:
DNA testing is not 'evidence'.
You will need to explain why courts introduce DNA testing as evidence. You will need to explain why sunburn is not evidence of UV rays. You will need to explain why an apple is not evidence of food.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:12 pm
Bartikus, I know you're just teasing, but to answer your question, just go back and read all the responses by rl to answers provided by "everybody else" about evolution and science.

If that isn't "calcified," I don't know what other definition would fit.
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Jason Proudmoore
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:13 pm
Chumly wrote:
You will need to explain why an apple is not evidence of food.


An apple is not just indication of food, Chum, it is clear evidence that Adam and Eve truly existed. Twisted Evil
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:13 pm
Hi Real Life,
Why is evidence not evidence of evidence?
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:13 pm
real life wrote:
Bartikus wrote:


It's all a matter of the mind.......I think? lol


I think you mean 'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

Laughing


not when it's a size 28.....but yes....mine is.
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:16 pm
timberlandko wrote:
real life wrote:

(Neither creation nor evolution has been observed, so nearly all evidence that is interpreted as supporting one or the other will be largely circumstantial.)

A half-truth at best: evolution is unambiguously observed through the fossil record


I know you're only a few years older than I am, and I certainly have not observed any fossilized creature while it was yet alive, so I am fairly sure that you have not either. Laughing

Therefore neither one of us, nor anyone you can point out, has ever observed one critter, which is now fossilized, evolve into another.

What you do is observe the fossil. That's the part you can see. Then you examine it and try to infer from the observations what you might have, how it might have lived, etc.

You didn't see (observe) it live. It's a fossil now, so that means it's really old. I hope I have made this simple enough for you to understand.
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:19 pm
Bartikus wrote:
real life wrote:
Bartikus wrote:


It's all a matter of the mind.......I think? lol


I think you mean 'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

Laughing


not when it's a size 28.....but yes....mine is.


I haven't seen 28 since 26, bro. Smile
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:20 pm
[quote="real life]Therefore neither one of us, nor anyone you can point out, has ever observed one critter, which is now fossilized, evolve into another.[/quote]Good thinking; a dead and fossilized critter stays dead and fossilized.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:22 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bartikus, I know you're just teasing, but to answer your question, just go back and read all the responses by rl to answers provided by "everybody else" about evolution and science.

If that isn't "calcified," I don't know what other definition would fit.


If I agreed it would only be my shared opinion at best.

I have learned that typing one's thoughts is not the best way of communicating. Too many possibilities of misunderstanding each other.

I once had a conversation with a good friend of mine over im and it erupted into a bitter dispute that lasted over a year.

It was nothing but a misunderstanding.

We are all limited somewhat by our written use of the english language....some more than others I admit.

There are times when my use of the english language is inadequate to relay my true thoughts. I suppose that would be true of almost anyone at times.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:24 pm
real life wrote:
Therefore neither one of us, nor anyone you can point out, has ever observed one critter, which is now fossilized, evolve into another.
Good thinking; a dead and fossilized critter stays dead and fossilized.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:25 pm
Hi Real Life,
Why is evidence not evidence of evidence?
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:27 pm
real life wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
real life wrote:
Bartikus wrote:


It's all a matter of the mind.......I think? lol


I think you mean 'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

Laughing


not when it's a size 28.....but yes....mine is.


I haven't seen 28 since 26, bro. Smile


talking on these forums ain't helping nuttin you know. lol
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:27 pm
real life wrote:
My statement was that evolution is not a branch of science.
What is it then a twig?
real life wrote:
Since you seem to have quite a bit of trouble getting your terms straight, we'll leave your opinion on semantics aside.
Why? Don't you want to make sure I understand?
real life wrote:
DNA testing is not 'evidence'.
You will need to explain why courts introduce DNA testing as evidence. You will need to explain why sunburn is not evidence of UV rays. You will need to explain why an apple is not evidence of food.
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 10:29 pm
Bartikus wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bartikus, I know you're just teasing, but to answer your question, just go back and read all the responses by rl to answers provided by "everybody else" about evolution and science.

If that isn't "calcified," I don't know what other definition would fit.


If I agreed it would only be my shared opinion at best.

I have learned that typing one's thoughts is not the best way of communicating. Too many possibilities of misunderstanding each other.

I once had a conversation with a good friend of mine over im and it erupted into a bitter dispute that lasted over a year.

It was nothing but a misunderstanding.

We are all limited somewhat by our written use of the english language....some more than others I admit.

There are times when my use of the english language is inadequate to relay my true thoughts. I suppose that would be true of almost anyone at times.


Two psychiatrists passed each other in the hallway.

"Good Morning" said the first.

The other said, "I wonder what he meant by that?"
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