Evolution? How?

RexRed wrote:

YOU don't cherish equality?

Of course I do. I just don't do it because the scripture tells me to do it. I have other motivations (as noted earlier).

I have not contended that you are an idiot. People who are not idiots traffic in idiocy every day. Neither am i a loser--not only is nothing gained if nothing is ventured, nothing is lost, either. In the "god" lottery, i'm not betting one red cent.

Without claiming you are an idiot--i have seen no evidence at this site to support a contention that you are "rather smart." Most of what you write here is so opaque as to give no idea at all of your relative intelligence.

You do... because you live in a judaeo-christian society that has allowed those very scriptures in question to become the law of the land...

Prior to these scriptures being written societies in general were not "free" like ours...

We should not belittle them (these scriptures and truths) but we should guard them as our most precious pearls of wisdom and as peace for the nations...

These are the very words that changed the world... Instead of subtracting from them let's in this case simply do as they say...

If God is not a "respecter of persons" and we are in the image of God than we should not carry any untoward animosity toward any persons...

If we do carry this animosity than we are not in the image of God...

It doesn't really matter if you know how this came into our society or how the mechanism works as long as you truly find mercy toward yourself and others... God seems to be a vital key in how this mechanism of mercy works...

How can you be a winner if you don't bet... hehe

How can you be a winner if you don't bet... hehe

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

rosborne979 wrote:

RexRed wrote:

YOU don't cherish equality?

Of course I do. I just don't do it because the scripture tells me to do it. I have other motivations (as noted earlier).

You do... because you live in a judaeo-christian society that has allowed those very scriptures in question to become the law of the land...

Wolf_ODonnell wrote:

I'd just like to know what the heck those organic molecules were that the Ames Research Center produced. I can't for the life of me find John Gribbin's reference, because the book I quoted from was a free sample version I got from Focus Magazine UK.

There is another thread here, in which Stuh505 and Farmerman have provided suggestions on early replication. Perhaps some of what you're looking for is listed there.

RexRed wrote:

How can you be a winner if you don't bet... hehe

I'm not trying to "win" anything . . . i just live my life as decently as possible, despite the proliferation of organized religion with its violence and pollution . . . hee hee (insert appropriate rolly-eyed emoticon here) . . .

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That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

There is nothing from which i need to be saved.

RexRed wrote:

rosborne979 wrote:

RexRed wrote:

YOU don't cherish equality?

Of course I do. I just don't do it because the scripture tells me to do it. I have other motivations (as noted earlier).

You do... because you live in a judaeo-christian society that has allowed those very scriptures in question to become the law of the land...

Incorrect. On all counts.

rex,

If what you say is true, why is there no mention of a deity anywhere in the United States Constitution?

Does not the constitution mention "religion" and the freedom thereof?

So the founding fathers who were 90% christian completely ignored the liberty, freedom and equality of the Bible... to write about the same things that incidentally had never been in an established government to date.

So these men, who had most of the Bible memorized before leaving grade school in the seventeen hundreds, completely ignored the very same precepts to make their own "declaration of independence" which turned out to be the same anyway as the Bible's "law of liberty"?

Now we see some twisted logic.

They ignored their beloved biblical ideas for their own original ideas which incidentally were the exact same thing as those in the Bible...

So the founding fathers who were 90% christian completely ignored the liberty, freedom and equality of the Bible... to write about the same things that incidentally had never been in an established government to date.

So these men, who had most of the Bible memorized before leaving grade school in the seventeen hundreds, completely ignored the very same precepts to make their own "declaration of independence" which turned out to be the same anyway as the Bible's "law of liberty"?

Now we see some twisted logic.

They ignored their beloved biblical ideas for their own original ideas which incidentally were the exact same thing as those in the Bible...

RexRed wrote:

So the founding fathers who were 90% christian completely ignored the liberty, freedom and equality of the Bible... to write about the same things that incidentally had never been in an established government to date.

To suggest that the founding fathers were 90% christian is to play fast and loose with the truth. More like, they were 100% descended from christian traditions--which in no way authorizes a statement that the constitution founded the nation on scriptural principles. The concepts of liberty, freedom and equality are not only not unique to "the Bible," they are not to be found there. Racism, slaughter of other tribes, slavery, the degredation and oppression of women--all of those things are to be found there, but not liberty, freedom and equality. The scriptural record, in fact, embodies the antithesis of those notions.

You seem to forget a Christian is not only associated with the old testament but also the new where God is revealed to be a God of love and not a tyrant... If there were no new testament I would not be a Christian or probably even a Jew...

Ephesians 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

This is not about division and laws that separate people but unity... something foreign to societies... attesting that it took 2000 years to realize just shows how revolutionary it was...

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So these men, who had most of the Bible memorized before leaving grade school in the seventeen hundreds, completely ignored the very same precepts to make their own "declaration of independence" which turned out to be the same anyway as the Bible's "law of liberty"?

There were no grade schools in the eighteenth century. There is no "law of liberty" in "the Bible."


James 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

James 2:12
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Comment: Set, what is the "law of liberty". Do you think the founding fathers did not read this in James? You just don't know what you are talking about...

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They ignored their beloved biblical ideas for their own original ideas which incidentally were the exact same thing as those in the Bible...

The ideals to which you refer are not to be found in "the Bible," which enjoins and glorifies racism, sexism, tribal bigotry and slavery. Their political ideas were distilled from Montaigne, Hobbes, Locke, Rousseau and a host of other thinkers who had written in what were then recent times. The contention that the ideas of "the Bible" were beloved to them is not only unfounded, it is farcical. If "the Bible" were so beloved to them, why did Jefferson re-write the gospels, to produce what is known as The Jefferson Bible?