Quote: I think we need to take these infidels to task and as in my above post show them the truth, however they will not accept it. BTW I think they were calling me a J---Off as I use Jackofalltrades as my login name. But I will give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they hit the f key twice [Wink]
INFIDEL, wow , Ive come up a notch.
No jack I purposely hit the jackoff key . After you
misapplied your revisionist "history" I had to take time to respond about the truth re Russian science under Stalin(remember lysenko)
The fact that Hitler was a young earth
creationist
Davenport was funded by Preston Bush also and his sponsors merely were looking for ways to slow immigration. I mentioned a more dispassionate, scholarly view of all your lies in the LEGACY OF MALTHUS
As far as truth, Im a 30 year veteran scientist in 2 disciplines with lots of "stick time" listening to Creationist mumbo jumbo. Im only here because , this thread will be available to parties involved in the Dover Pa case (your ilk wish to keep that quiet because you want to snip away the establishment clause of the Bill of Rights by your intolerant pushing of your religious views into law when youve always had the right to be heard inschools, now you want special legislation).
Im here to keep reminding the other people,who, open to free pursuit of scientific evidence and objective evaluation of data,that they should not to lose sight of the fact that your only goal is to be the only religious movement to acquire special legislation (via Supreme Court decisions) to get around the "establishment clause"
Your science is lame and hackneyed retreads of arguments posted by Morris almost 30 years ago. As we continually keep"pulling back the curtain' in the dark areas of scientific discovery, you have to keep backing off to a new retreat point. You all know and we all know.In 1995, when I first was testifying in front of Pas legislators about science standards in high schools so that transitions to colleges dont require "remedial biology and chemistry and others", the arguments by Creationists and their newly formed band of Intelligent Design proponents, included the "evidence for theflood" and the "gaps in the fossil record" Now that thousands of new fossil intermediates have closed debate on such animals as whales, birds, cichlid fish, insect families, angiosperm plants, and the basal Isua,(and many many more) the Creationists have been pretty quiet since they only put out false information on "insider websites" and havent tried to enter discussions in peered journals.
BTWWeve extended recent sediment dating back to almost 900000 years from the Greenland Ice sheet and weve taken tree rings cross- dating back to almost 50000. THIS IS ONLY RECENT DATING and it already blows your young earth crap out of the water.
When scientists testify, they usually lose the audience from the insider jargon of their craft. I like to practice with the simpler concepts that can be obviously proven, because if youre wrong on one item (showing that animals evolved in our time) then your wrong period, because your"science" is a packaged deal. You buy it all or nothing.In the early days of modern Creationist though, there was a more diverse group of actual scientists who extended the debate to a logical bound
George Price was a proponent of an ancient world
Frank Lewis Wright was an old earth Creationist and a major force in the early Intelligent Design movement
Ernest Booth was a similar old earther
Byron Nelson(ditto
)
Harold Clarkwas a young earther and was an able debator but got his lunch handed to him frequently
There were some diverse opinions on the mechanisms and interpretations. It was a vital time to be a Creationist from the 30s to perhaps the 60s.
George Barry Otoole, John Kolz,Arthur Isaac Brown.
Your group has gotten almost one minded since Reagan ressurected the force. Youve adopted a borg-like mentality and now , with the Intelligent Designers coming along and stipulating to evolution and an old earth, i think that you guys should re-investigate your core beliefs or be rendered obsolete.
But , be that as it may, I wont call you jackoffd if you stop trying to spin history in a fashion that you know is untrue. Or I will take the time and document all the genocide thats occured "In the name of God(s)"
I dontcare whose, since most religion is based upon intolerance anyway, and you guys demonstrate that point most effectively