i'll revert back to my own style of answering as i find repeated quotes cumbersome.
(I am leaving out the arrows.)
-------> what arrows.
Ok, not making fun maybe, but definitely sarcastic I would say by this post of yours:
Quote:funny how the people (2ndary semetics) who claim to worship a just, kind, loving, merciful god are are ones who have, over centuries, perfected the fine art of genocide, while the un-saved unbelieving worshippers of "false" gods - though dont have a unblemished record, have hardly ever indulged in religious killings.
I, myself, claim to worship a just, kind, loving and merciful God and I, myself, have never committed genocide, whether in God's name or not.
------------------>> congrats. but surely you are not the only christian thats ever been around are you?? i fail to see how your not indulging in barbaric acts negates the genocides and inquisitions and saxon baby stealing.
isnt your answer like the standard answer muslims have - "i never bombed wtc or fought jihad". well maybe not, but a lot many others of your kind did.
brahmin Wrote:
Quote:I did not say that did i?? It's one thing to believe in a certain theologyk and quite another to believe that it came from a bush or an i-pod.
IMO, this reeks of sarcasm for my beliefs. Who are you to tell me what is certain theology to me or anyone else? It may be your opinion, and if it is, fine. Just please have the courtesy to say it is your opinion and not paint with such a wide brush.
------------> its not your beliefs i am sarcastic about, much as you would like to think so. i am no one to tell you what theology you should believe and i did not either !!
is english your first language?
brahmin Wrote:
Concerning you making jokes:
Quote:no you don't. and neither do i.)
These are from your posts:
Quote:"a voice in the head is worth two in the bush" !
--------> yes. that was a parody. i mentioned that it wasnt serious.
Quote:yes that would be a bit much - a bush with theology to share.
------------->> whats wrong with that?? someone said the voice was not the bush's and i agreed.
Quote:that dont change the fact that voices (doesnt matter who's) dont come out of bushes.
or does it?
------------>> whats so sarcastic about that eh?? do voices ever come out of bushes?? is this a scientifically repeatable experiment?? has it been observed by anyone else ever?? experiment is the sole proof of a theory/claim.
If this is not making jokes, what do you call it then?
----------------->>>its called stating facts. pity some people confuse facts for jokes - and sometimes - jokes for facts.
brahmin Wrote:
Quote:you havent yet. ne neither.
(concerning my Do I make jokes about you?)
See previous quotes of yours I just listed. YET? So, you are expecting me to? Don't hold your breath. I won't, nor do I have the right to make jokes about you.
------------------------->>> breath ?? i dont have breathing probs ty. the previous posts you listed are your misconstruing of plain facts and logical points. not jokes.
brahmin Wrote:
Quote:only i am not buying the mode of communication.
The mode? You mean you typing what you think, feel, and believe and me doing the same? I find it a pretty good mode of communicaton.
---------------->> nope. i really doubt english is your 1st language.
mode = mode of commication using bushes. ok ??
you find it a pretty good mode of communication - talking through bushes?? whoa !! you hide behind bushes and talk to people from there?? splindid !
I think it might be better to say you are not buying what I am telling you. It's the content (IMO) you don't buy and not the mode.
----------------->> nope. i buy neither the mode (bushism) nor the content of YOUR posts.
And, that's fine. No one says you have to. I just don't think you need to be so sarcastic in your responses to me.
--------------------------->> well for a start you can start by learning whats sarcasm and whats not.
brahmin Wrote:
Quote:You said god used to communicate with man back then, and now does it differently. I asked how.
you said burning bush.
He used the burning bush in the OT. He did not show His face. He did not sit down and say let's chat over a cup of coffee. He communicated through the burning bush to Moses. Moses heard God speaking.
-------------------->> which is what i dont buy. that god spoke to someone through a bush. if god spoke to someone without a bush, i'd still find it hard to believe - unless proven.
and thats what i asked you to do - prove it. all you did in reply was restate the mode.
brahmin Wrote:
Quote:so now try to defnd the possibility/probability of the bush actually talking - with scientifically valid arguements - since you so firmly believe that it did actually occur - instead of accusing me of things I have not done or said.
I am not sure by me accusing you here.
--------------------------------->>>>> accusing me of making jokes, being sarcastic etc.
And defend what?
----------------------->> the possibility of god communicating to man, from within a bush or without.
What do I need to defend to you?
------------------->> that ^
As to the making jokes, I just pointed out I
felt you were making jokes and I
feel you were being sarcastic.
---------------> not a big surprise that.
you also feel that the mode was a burning bush !!
in either case, your "feeling" - is NOT proof.
You want me to scientifically give you proof that the bush actually did the talking?
---------------->> yes. you got it at last. better late than never !
That is probably the most condescending thing I have ever heard directed toward me.
---------------->> whats so condescending??
You know that I cannot offer you scientific proof, as you would have it.
-------------->> something tells me that deep inside you also know that scientific proof, you have none.
Why would anyone want to worship a God that had to prove Himself?
-------------------->> well firstly prove that it was god doing the talking and not Jepardiah hiding behind a bush or someone else.
That would make the god no better than a human being himself.
------------->> i doubt he is better than humans in any case. have a look at the mess in the world.
If all these things about God could be proven scientifically, I submit to you that would make God not a God and merely something man feels he has to have to believe something.
-------------------->> so the main proof that it was indeed god doing the talking was that it cant be proven scientifically?? and you really need to brush up your english.
I believe what the Bible says.
------------>> you are free to. its one thing to believe and another thing to prove it.
It says God appeared to Moses in a burning bush and told him what He wanted Moses to do.
---------------------->> yes thats what it says. but prove that it was indeed god who spoke. that it wasnt someone else or it wasnt the imagination of the person who wrote the book.
If Moses had seen the face of God, he would have perished.
------------------>> how do you know that for a fact?? do you have evidence of anyone having seen the face of hgod and perishing?
brahmin Wrote:
Quote:also since you dont quite agree with me that i-pods are too popular, then let me know how the communication goes on these days (you yourself said that back then it was bushes and now different).
More condescending.
---------------------------->> not !!
most assumptious on your part though.
As a Christian, I believe God lays on my heart what His will is for me.
--------------->> does that happen to all christians?? well then you are in a soup.
you said before when i pointed out about inquisitions that what happened was not the will of god but of the men who did it.
how come when christians do barbaric things its their will and when they dont its god's will ?? isnt it possible god willed the spaniards hack the natives to death?? if not, then why not.
I believe through His word, the Holy Bible, God communicates His will for me.
---------------->> yes please believe.
does god not commnicate his will for adolf hitler though??
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