Lash
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2019 05:07 pm
Joe Biden says he’ll be glad to have a Republican VP.

That’s where the Centrist Democrat Party is in 2019.

They need to splinter off with s new party.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2019 05:09 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
That’s not true. I wouldn’t support socialism. Democratic Socialism is different—and successful.

You keep telling yourself that as well. When someone can vote to take away my business because it's good for everyone else is the day our nation died. How long until they can vote to take away your house? Would I be allowed to own a house in the mountains or will they impose a single house rule on all families? I'm interested in how a 51% vote is going to work out for those on the 49% side when our Constitutional protections are gone.
Lash
 
  3  
Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2019 05:11 pm
@Baldimo,
Seriously, how can someone vote to take away your business?
Lash
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2019 05:37 pm
#PresidentSanders has been trending on Twitter for 10 hours.

Watch out!!! 🤗
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Lash
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2019 05:51 pm
We’re rounding up the usual suspects for donations for our bud before the end of Q4. If you are inclined to stuff corruption and inattention back down the throat of the criminal ruling class of mis-elected crooks, send a few bucks to our man, Bernard.

No amount is too small.



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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2019 06:06 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Seriously, how can someone vote to take away your business?

Progressives refer to it as "nationalization". Most other people refer to it as theft.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalization
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Lash
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2019 07:11 pm
Sanders closes in on five million contributions while Warren's fundraising lags
Senator Bernie Sanders' 2020 presidential campaign raised approximately $26 million in the final three months of the year, according to The New York Times. Senator Elizabeth Warren's campaign, meanwhile, announced that it had raised a little more than $17 million in the fourth quarter, a drop from its third-quarter fundraising.


26 mil!!! He thinks he may get a mil or 2 more by end of day tomorrow!!!

😺
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Lash
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2019 07:17 pm
https://www.newsweek.com/republican-vp-trends-americans-react-biden-saying-he-would-consider-gop-2020-running-mate-1479765

"Republican VP" began trending on Twitter Monday afternoon after Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden told voters during a Exeter, New Hampshire event that he would consider a member of the GOP as his 2020 running mate.

Though he predicted he would be "clobbered by the press" for saying so, Biden did it anyway. "The answer is, I would, but I can't think of one now," the former vice president said, after a woman asked whether he would partner with a Republican for the upcoming election.

After waiting for the laughter and applause to cease, Biden went on to explain his decision: "There's some really decent Republicans that are out there still. But here's the problem right now, the well-known one: They've got to step up."



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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2019 08:21 pm
27K donations in the past three hours. OurRevolution expects to hit 5 million donations by Q4.

🔥🌹
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2019 11:46 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
Socialism is socialism is socialism, they are all the same pig with different shades of lipstick.
I and we've got a different opinion here, especially regarding the period the KZ#s, the Holocaust and the Nazis.
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2019 08:44 am
Quote:
This is not to deny the power or the sincerity of Biden’s empathy. It is real and rooted and fundamentally decent. It has at its core the baffled humility of the human helplessness in the face of death that makes life “so difficult to discern.” As an antidote to Donald Trump’s grotesquely inflated “greatness,” it has authentic force. It is a different, and much better, way of talking about distress, of making pain a shared thing rather than a motor of resentment. But can a politics of grief be adequate to a politics of grievance? Can it deal either with the real grievances of structural inequality or with the toxic self-pity that Trump has both fostered and embodied? Biden’s essential appeal as a candidate for 2020 is that he (not least being older, male, and white) is the only one who can heal a heartbroken and divided America. But he cannot embrace voters one by one. The US cannot be made whole again because it has never been whole. Biden’s core belief is that injustice is a failure of benevolence and effort: “There is nothing inherently wrong with the system; it’s up to each of us to do our part to make it work.” But division is real and profound and structural—it is not just a matter of feeling. The need is not to reconcile everyone to the balance of power but to alter that balance. Consolation is not social change. Solace is not enough.

nyrb
Lash
 
  1  
Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2019 09:31 am
Wow. The tables have turned.

Neera Tanden is finally getting a well deserved dragging. She is the poster girl for the Republicanization of the Democratic Party.

We don’t need, nor will we accept two corrupt corporate conservative parties when we are stuck in this duopoly.

Tanden, trending. Me, dancing.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2019 11:31 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Seriously, how can someone vote to take away your business?

You understand how voting works don't you? You understand how our Constitution works as well. Well, the left want's to do away with property and business rights in favor of turning it all over to the "people", workers rights and the Unions. When someone starts talking about the workers making the decisions, you are talking about taking a business away from someone who already runs it. The same will happen to property rights, they don't like that someone has more than one house when there are people who don't have one. If they get their way, it will only take a simple majority to create what they want, the Constitution will get in their way, but with a simple majority, it won't matter.

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georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2019 12:13 pm
@hightor,
Interesting piece about Biden and his supposed capabilities. I find it very hard to believe that any thinking people will buy this crap.

However. I must admit he has shown significant empathy to his wayward son Hunter - using his influence as VP to get him a direct commission in the Navy as a Lt Commander, only to find him summarily discharged for the unlawful use of cocaine; then later taking him along on Air Force 2 on a state visit to China where his son somehow (no doubt, based solely on his own proven investment management skills ) got one Billion dollars capital for his nascent Venture capital firm from a Chinese government controlled corporation; and then later as VP boastfully reciting the story of his successful threat to cut off of Congressionally approved aid to Ukraine unless an ongoing investigation of local petroleum companies be immediately terminated - the investigation included one, company (Barisma) that had recently recruited the esteemed Hunter Biden as a Board member (based, of course, on his abundant experience in directing petroleum companies). corporations). It appears he has also stuck by his son in his claim that he lacks the funds to pay claims for child support in a successful paternity suit, perhaps to help him avoid the necessity of selling his recently acquired home in the Hollywood Hills.

In addition to such dedicated and persistent empathy there is also Biden's rugged integrity and trustworthiness: his word is surely his bond. His inspiring eloquence will lift and heal the nation. Plagiarism and taking merely convenient policy positions to advance his status are beneath him. His recent campaign promises and declared positions are utterly in keeping with his lifelong political record in the Senate.

Happily the unwashed multitude of voters are a good deal more observant and discerning than are the elites of the media who seek to lead and instruct them.
blatham
 
  1  
Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2019 12:26 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Many people have said things like that, though I'll readily agree Trump makes a bad habit of it. It's serious fault, but that doesn't make him a worthless person or render his ideas and actions on other matters worthless or absurd.
Let's recall the point of this little discussion - that these acts establish a predictable pattern of behavior by Trump which constitute evidence of his character. It's not a matter of intuiting his intentions. Likewise (back to the original issue) Lash's acts as contrasted with Sanders' acts.

Now, does this ugly character flaw entail a conclusion the man is otherwise entirely worthless? Of course not. Harvey Weinstein produced a lot of America's best films. Joe McCarthy may have been a kind grandfather. But it is not as if that is Trump's only area of pathology. After all, he just forked over 20 million bucks for defrauding hopeful students who enrolled in Trump U. And millions more for using his charity for himself. And then there's that fact that he has told thousands of lies while holding the office of POTUS.

And yet, you along with many others, continue to build excuses and rationales for all of this because it would be too uncomfortable to face the real possibility that your party's leader, the man who holds the presidency, is a sociopath.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2019 12:28 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Happily the unwashed multitude of voters are a good deal more observant and discerning than are the elites of the media who seek to lead and instruct them.

Ah yes, the "masses of ignoble strife" that have more character and meaning in their lives than these condescending talking heads will ever have.
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2019 12:31 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Happily the unwashed multitude of voters are a good deal more observant and discerning than are the elites of the media who seek to lead and instruct them.

Why do you make such sweeping, biased, and unsubstantiated generalizations?

Good judgment and common sense are qualities which can be found from the highly educated all the way to the functionally illiterate.

Too bad the unwashed observant multitudes weren't discerning enough to eschew the opiates shoveled into their communities by the pharmaceutical companies.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2019 12:47 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
Too bad the unwashed observant multitudes weren't discerning enough to eschew the opiates shoveled into their communities by the pharmaceutical companies.

Doesn't that make them victims? I thought victim hood was number one on the progressive hit parade.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2019 12:54 pm
@hightor,
My observations were no more biased, sweeping or unsubstantiated than were those above which you pasted here for us to read. Apparently you found them to be OK. I find your response very odd.
hightor
 
  3  
Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2019 01:20 pm
@georgeob1,
The excerpt I posted here is from a much longer article on Biden which conforms to the standards of journals of opinion. He makes his points, he illustrates them, he provides background facts as needed. The "observation" of yours, which I questioned, was one single line:

Quote:
Happily the unwashed multitude of voters are a good deal more observant and discerning than are the elites of the media who seek to lead and instruct them.


Apparently you're claiming that people who are uneducated are smarter than people who write articles in the media. That's a rather sweeping generalization. Which is why I made the point that good judgment and common sense are qualities which can be found from the highly educated all the way to the functionally illiterate. If journalists are as out of touch as you seem to think they are is it just a matter of chance that the subjects they write about are familiar to us all? How does that work, georgeob? It seems you just object to their political perspective, using the pejorative term "elites" just like the president does.

To repeat, were the multitudes of common people were as discerning as you give them credit for we wouldn't be suffering with the widespread problem of prescription opioid abuse. Among other things.
 

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