@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Quote:we will remember how @BernieSanders was treated simply for pushing us to be a more decent and compassionate nation.
People tend to hate prophets who say the truth too soon and too forcefuly. It's a classic sociological phenomenon.
They've had over thirty years of circling the drain and are approaching the mouth of the drain, but that's too soon?
@edgarblythe,
You act as though Bernie Sanders has been the only voice of (like Jeramiah I guess)to lament the trickle down theories of Reagan. Democrats have been pushing hard against it, they are not always successful. Obama had some ideas, he had a jobs program aimed finding those who have been left behind of the economic boom he pushed to no avail. Just because they are not extreme as wanting completely free colleges or even UHC does not mean they are on the other side. There is such thing as moderation and it is not a dirty word. What we need is at least four long years of a democrat controlled house and senate and WH and no extreme ideas to push the pendulum the other way which happens when extremism is pushed.
I am voting for Warren because for the most part I like her ideas, but I find some of them too extreme and hope if she is elected, she will listen to more moderate heads. I think so far, she has the best chance at winning. I will vote for Bernie if he is elected, but I don't think he will listen to any ideas but his own.
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Warren's campaign hired a Clinton orbiter and then had to let him go for being sexually inappropriate, and still hasn't unionized it's employees. Imagine the outrage if this was going on in Bernie's campaign.
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"I also feel like this candidacy is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to do something incredible, and that if we don’t take it we’ll regret it forever.
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On Wednesday night I attended the New York Film Festival and witnessed a cinematic masterpiece, the film that last month won the top prize as the Best Film of the Venice International Film Festival. It’s called “Joker” — and all we Americans have heard about this movie is that we should fear it and stay away from it. We’ve been told it’s violent and sick and morally corrupt — an incitement and celebration of murder. We’ve been told that police will be at every screening this weekend in case of “trouble.” Our country is in deep despair, our constitution is in shreds, a rogue maniac from Queens has access to the nuclear codes — but for some reason, it’s a movie we should be afraid of.
I would suggest the opposite: The greater danger to society may be if you DON’T go see this movie. Because the story it tells and the issues it raises are so profound, so necessary, that if you look away from the genius of this work of art, you will miss the gift of the mirror it is offering us. Yes, there’s a disturbed clown in that mirror, but he’s not alone — we’re standing right there beside him.
“Joker” is no superhero or supervillain or comic book movie. The film is set somewhere in the ‘70s or ‘80s in Gotham City - and the filmmakers make no attempt to disguise it for anything other than what it is: New York City, the headquarters of all evil: the rich who rule us, the banks and corporations for whom we serve, the media which feeds us a daily diet “news” they think we should absorb. This past week, a week when a sitting President indicted himself because, in true Joker style, he was laughing himself silly at Mueller’s and the Dems’ inability to stop him, so he just quadrupled down and handed them everything they needed. But even then, after ten days of his flaunting his guilt, he was still sitting with his KFC grease-stained nuclear codes in the Oval Office, so he told
Captain Sketchy to fire up the helicopter, the sound of its blades revving up, meant only to alert the reporters to scurry outside for the daily “press conference” — Trump walks outside into the deafening cacophony of the whirlybird and publicly and feloniously asks the Peoples Republic of China to interfere in our 2020 election by sending him dirt on the Bidens. He and his magic carpet of hair then walked away and, other than the citizen howls of “CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS?!”, nothing happened. As “Joker” opens this weekend, Joker, Jr. Is still still sitting at John F. Kennedy’s desk in the Oval Office on the days he shows up to work, dreaming of his next conquest and debauchery.
But this movie is not about Trump. It’s about the America that gave us Trump — the America which feels no need to help the outcast, the destitute. The America where the filthy rich just get richer and filthier.
Except in this story a discomfiting question is posed: What if one day the dispossessed decide to fight back? And I don’t mean with a clipboard registering people to vote. People are worried this movie may be true
oo violent for them. Really? Considering everything we’re living through in real life? You allow your school to conduct “active shooter drills” with your children, permanently, emotionally damaging them as we show these little ones
that this is the life we’ve created for them. “Joker” makes it clear we don’t really want to get to the bottom of this, or to try to understand why innocent people turn in to Jokers after they can no longer keep it together. No one wants to ask why two smart boys skipped their 4th-hour AP French Philosophy class at Columbine High to slaughter 12 students and a teacher. Who would dare ask why the son of a vice-president of General Electric would go into Sandy Hook Elementary in
Newtown, CT and blow the tiny bodies apart of 20 first-graders. Or why did 53% of White women vote for the presidential candidate who, on tape, reveled in his talent as a sexual predator?
The fear and outcry over “Joker” is a ruse. It’s a distraction so that we don’t look at the real violence tearing up our fellow human beings — 30 million Americans who don’t have health insurance is an act of violence. Millions of abused women and children living in fear is an act of violence. Cramming 59 students like worthless sardines into classrooms in Detroit is an act of violence.
As the news media stands by for the next mass shooting, you and your neighbors and co-workers have already been shot numerous times, shot straight through all of your hearts and hopes and dreams. Your pension is long gone. You’re in debt for the next 30 years because you committed the crime of wanting an education. You have actually thought about not having children because you don’t have the heart to bring them onto a dying planet where they are given a 20-year death-by-climate-change sentence at birth. The violence in “Joker”? Stop! Most of the violence in the movie is perpetrated on the Joker himself, a person in need of help, someone trying to survive on the margins of a greedy society. His crime is that he can’t get help. His crime is that he is the butt of a joke played on HIM by the rich and famous. When the Joker decides he can no longer take it — yes, you will feel awful. Not because of the (minimal) blood on the screen, but because deep down, you were cheering him on - and if you’re honest when that happens, you will thank this movie for connecting you to a new desire — not to run to the nearest exit to save your own ass but rather to stand and fight and focus your attention on the nonviolent power you hold in your hands every single day. Thank you Joaquin Phoenix, Todd Phillips, Warner Bros. and all who made this important movie for this important time. I loved this film’s multiple homages to Taxi Driver, Network, The French Connection, Dog Day Afternoon. How long has it been since we’ve seen a movie aspire to the level of Stanley Kubrick? Go see this film. Take your teens. Take your resolve.
Does it seem like it to anyone else that there was more handwringing about age and fitness when Hillary got the flu than when Bernie had a heart attack?
@snood,
Yes, because Hillary was spazzing out oddly, being carried up stairs, passed out at an event, was loaded by a team of security guards into her van, and her campaign never told the truth about it.
Bernie had a minor heart attack, had stents inserted, informed the public, and went about his business.
@snood,
Good point. In fact, you couldn't avoid noticing dozens of doctored videos showing Clinton swaying, losing her place, rolling her eyes, and basically being portrayed as a dottering old crone with one foot in the grave. His campaign has been raising charges of media bias but so far the meme machines and troll factories seem to have left Sanders alone.
@edgarblythe,
No, Michael, I won't be going to see this movie.
@Lash,
Quote:Yes, because Hillary was spazzing out oddly, being carried up stairs, passed out at an event, was loaded by a team of security guards into her van, and her campaign never told the truth about it.
Wasn't there pretty extensive coverage when she passed out at that event? We were all told that she had the flu and would be taking a few days off from campaigning. That seemed pretty legitimate. I think it was made worse because of all the doctored stuff I mentioned and compilations like
this one.
@hightor,
Are you prepared to say the additional things people mentioned didn’t happen?
@hightor,
Quote:Good point. In fact, you couldn't avoid noticing dozens of doctored videos showing Clinton swaying, losing her place, rolling her eyes, and basically being portrayed as a dottering old crone with one foot in the grave. His campaign has been raising charges of media bias but so far the meme machines and troll factories seem to have left Sanders alone.
It's a damned good point. And so is your point, hightor.
One key component in this story is how effective the right wing slime machine is at pushing their agitprop into mainstream media.
And another key component is that this same slime machine is, at least for now, leaving Sanders relatively untouched.
@Lash,
Quote:Are you prepared to say the additional things people mentioned didn’t happen?
What really supports your ****-tossing is that Hillary could soon no longer walk nor speak and died in a putrid mess of rotting flesh and brains months later.
@blatham,
Sanders is by no means being left untouched, his supporters are just pushing back.
There are media props saying Sanders is trying to hide his condition and that for three days, he was hiding his condition from his donors. That was vociferously crammed back in their faces.
Famous quote:
I’d vote for Bernie’s animated Futurama head in a jar before anyone else.
@blatham,
No, when her head was bobbing uncontrollably more than once, it seemed she was either taking a medication causing that odd motion or she was suffering from a serious illness featuring a debilitating palsy-type shaking.
Definitely, people deserved to know that.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-seizure-video/
She seems either drunk or experiencing a neurological accident.
Again.
@Lash,
Quote:Sanders is by no means being left untouched
The context of my statement was "by the right wing slime machine". Here there is no comparison and it's not even close.
As to complaints that the Sanders campaign took three days to state it was a heart attack, your criticism is valid. The fact of a heart attack is established by blood tests showing some damage to the heart muscle. That doesn't take long to establish but it isn't uncommon and not a terribly critical finding - though obviously it has health ramification re the person's future. Still, those complaints are few and have arrived without the sort of cascade of screeching and falsehoods that the entire right wing universe put up in Hillary's case.
I don't really get why you continue to forward right wing propaganda here. Nobody grants you credibility except, in some cases, Edgar. You gain nothing and only gain further contempt for what you're up to.
