Progressives (Liberals)

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@mnscooter1960
Replying to @tomaskenn
Every Democrat is a bold progressive when running for office or when out of office. Its when they get elected they become centrist or even conservative

I’ll challenge you to find a single democrat serving who has become conservative.

This just piles on the bullshit coming from you.

Most democrats are conservatives.

Is that you, coldjoint? Why do y'all just believe only in pack of lies after pack of lies after pack of lies, which has been going on for over 245 years.

It's much easier to believe in the truth because then you aren't caught in your lies and your hypocrisy. Which is what so often trips y'all up.

No, it is Howard Zinn's love child, gone terribly wrong.

It's clear that something has gone horribly wrong to create an idiot like that. Likely - Born in the USA!

The rest is just your usual nature of fabricating much of the world around you.

That is what Zinn did, and you are neck deep in it.

Pick one thing, just one thing that Professor Zinn said that wasn't accurate. Then prove he was wrong without going all Trumpian on us.

Who cares if his political ideology is garbage, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinn

You are panicking, the sure sign of someone caught in his web of lies. I didn't say the quote you attributed to me, cj.

Why are you being so deceptive, so dishonest? You haven't even addressed the question you were asked.

Professor Zinn's ideology has not led him to illegally invade myriad sovereign nations and slaughter millions of innocents just to steal their wealth.

The ideology you speak of is that of the Republican and Democratic Parties of the USA.

Has failed every time, and its big brother Communism killed many, many more innocents.

You illustrate the same profound ignorance that is endemic to the USA.

China and Vietnam are doing a spectacular job even considering the amount of carnage and economic destruction the US has inflicted upon them. Many European nations hold many democratic socialist policies. As does Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK, Ireland, Scotland, ... .

Israel has many functioning communist kibbutzes.

Only the US, under the guise of "personal liberty" has resisted these worthy goals. In the US people have the personal liberty to die from lack of proper health care.

Had the US/UK/EU colonial powers not stolen vast sums of wealth from most of the poor countries of the world, they would have vibrant, healthy countries.

Countries fail not from their policies but from outside forces stealing their wealth and oppressing them like the always US right wing dictatorships.

Move.

Here again, you illustrate the classic conservative dishonesty. The strong stong tendency of moral cowards to seize the opportunity "not to think at all".

As Mike Rivero so accurately describes, "Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”

Trump does this a lot.

Fantasy? Or the real truth?

https://www.newsweek.com/robert-reich-are-republicans-plotting-oust-trump-he-thinks-so-644676

This article first appeared on RobertReich.org.

On Monday morning I phoned my friend, a former Republican member of Congress.

Me: What’s going on? Seems like the White House is imploding and Republicans are going down with the ship.

Him (chuckling): We’re officially a banana republic.

Him: Remember what I told you at the start of this circus? They planned to use Trump’s antics for cover, to get done what they most wanted – big tax cuts, rollbacks of regulations, especially financial. They’d work with Pence behind the scenes and forget the crazy uncle in the attic.

Me: Yeah.

Him: Well, I’m hearing a different story now. Stuff with Sessions is pissing them off. Then Trump hired that horse’s ass Scaramucci – a communications director who talks dirty on CNN! Plus Trump’s numbers are in freefall. They think he’s gonna hurt them in ’18 and ’20.

Me: So what’s the plan?

Him: They want him outta there.

Me: Really? Impeachment?

Him: Doubt it, unless Mueller comes up with a smoking gun.

Me: Or if he fires Mueller.

Him: Not gonna happen.

Me: So how do they get him out?

Him: Put someone else up in ’20. Lots of maneuvering already. Pence, obviously. Cruz thinks he has a shot.

Me: But that won’t help them in the midterms. What’s the plan before then?

Him: Lots think he’s fritzing out.

Me: Fritzing out?

Him: Going totally bananas. Paranoia. You want to know why he fired Priebus, wants Sessions out, and is now gunning for Tillerson?

Me: He wants to shake things up?

Him (chuckling): No. The way I hear it, he thinks they’ve been plotting against him.

Me: What do you mean?

Him: Twenty-fifth amendment! Read it! A Cabinet can get rid of a president who’s nuts. Trump thinks they’ve been preparing a palace coup. So one by one, he’s firing them.

Me: I find it hard to believe they’re plotting against him.

Him: Of course not! It’s ludicrous. Sessions is a loyal lapdog. Tillerson doesn’t know where the bathroom is. That’s my point. Trump is fritzing out. Having manic delusions. He’s actually going nuts.

Me: And?

Him: Well, it’s downright dangerous.

Me: Yeah, but that still doesn’t tell me what Republicans are planning to do about it.

Him: Look. How long do you think it will be before everyone in Washington knows he’s flipping out? I don’t mean just weird. I mean really off his rocker.

Me: I don’t know.

Him: No all that long.

Me: So what are you telling me?

Him: They don’t have to plot against him. It will be obvious to everyone that he’s got to go. That’s where the twenty-fifth amendment really does comes in.

Me: So you think…

Him: Who knows? But he’s losing it fast. My betting is he’s out of office before the midterms. And Pence is president.

Do you think R Reich would lie, Edgar?

It's important for adults to actually look at real evidence.

Fantasy; unless Trump goes or acts much, much worse.