Progressives (Liberals)

As if you hadn't done so a long time ago already...

What's unhelpful is your defeatism.

The party is divided by design. It always has been. By definition a two-party system invites the creation of 2 wide-tent parties. In such a system, the primaries are a way to resolve differences that inevitably exist within each of the two parties, and a good occasion to discuss issues and platforms rather than focus on whom you like too much or too little.

There have been ups and downs. I think you are a clever person. It has nothing to do with my duty as a citizen to get the best representatives money can't buy.

My feelings are ruthless where big money is concerned. Any politician on the take is an enemy of the people.

Excessive confidence doesn't serve our cause any better. I want people to imagine the likeliness of particular chains of events and consider what their response might be. I don't see how this is "defeatist".

Don’t change a thing; it worked so well the last time around.

I thinks it’s too early for electioneering tactics, which of course will play a role at some later point, but not too early to talk about what the dems stand for, what they propose, what they want to achieve. It seems to me that this is an important and neglected priority. Also the last election should provide caution about personalising these things too much. It should not have been about being with or against her or him, a game he won all too easily. It should have been about the people, about where they want the country to be heading, etc.

In a somewhat perverse way the problem facing Democrats now is very much like that facing the Republicans in the last election - a divided party, and the absence of any dominant leader in the presidential candidate contest.

That's exactly what I have been advising establishment Democrats.

The advice does work for both ‘establishment’ and ‘progressive’ dems.

So some are fond of telling me.

Sirota needn't be terrified — if they did that they'd be sure to run a multiracial gay woman for veep.

I should just let you know: Trump may win again. A large enough contingent of Democrats / ‘Indies leaning liberal’ won’t vote for a corporate democrat.

I hope to hell establishment Democrats see the handwriting on the wall.

The fight is life and death for people thrust down to lower class level who can’t afford safe food and medical treatment.

The status quo is OVER.

I really believe the GOP will put up an opposition candidate.

For me and my compatriots, that’s exactly what it was about and now that focus is front and center.

No it doesn’t.

One assumed the support of people they’d stopped serving decades ago. They’ve lost what they thought they owned.

Progressives let them know what they lost. They’ll go left or disappear.

I was just thinking today after hearing the news that Ginsberg missed work in the SCOTUS today, that it's quite a large possibility that Trump will get another SCOTUS pick, which will make the court HEAVILY favored to the conservative side.

If that happens, getting any of the progressive policies enacted is basically zero, as a conservative court would gut any laws that make it through.

It would be funny if that weren't also so sad.

Thank god for those protest votes huh?

Americans are known masochists by the proof of their votes for people who wish to destroy our democracy. They are chipping away at what was once a GREAT COUNTRY. Trump's MAGA supporters never understood that our country was once GREAT, until they started to destroy it from the inside. How they treat immigrants at the border is contrary to UN and United States laws and regulations. We are now in a downward spiral from which a change of direction is impossible, because Trump still has two more years to dig us deeper into the abyss. https://theconversation.com/us-zero-tolerance-immigration-policy-still-violating-fundamental-human-rights-laws-98615

If Trump manages to find a way to build a wall, whether from military means or otherwise, I wonder what are the chances millions of people could make their way to the border, to set up camp and stay a while.