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Democratisation in the Middle East - the debate

 
 
Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 9 Mar, 2005 03:51 pm
I thought that Latinos had already surpassed African-Americans as the largest minority group in the USA?

(Franglais is commonly spoken in eastern Canada. Smile)
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 04:34 am
5 entries found for jerk.
v. jerked, jerkĀ·ing, jerks
v. tr.

1. To give a sudden quick thrust, push, pull, or twist to.
2. To throw or toss with a quick abrupt motion.
3. To utter abruptly or sharply: jerked out the answer.
4. To make and serve (ice-cream sodas, for example) at a soda fountain.
5. Sports. To press (a weight) overhead from shoulder height in a quick motion.


v. intr.

1. To move in sudden abrupt motions; jolt: The train jerked forward.
2. To make spasmodic motions: My legs jerked from fatigue.


n.

1. A sudden abrupt motion, such as a yank or twist.

No references pertaining to Anglo Saxon. One reference to Yank Smile
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 08:06 am
That was good ! Laughing

I'll get you for it later.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:56 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
... the exchange rate has more to do with the trade-weighted relative demand for the currencies than it has with the relative wealth of the countries themselves. ...


Quote:
The U.S. dollar hit a nine-week low Thursday against the euro, weakened by higher oil prices, a sell-off in Treasury bonds and nervousness over upcoming U.S. trade figures.
source
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 03:22 pm
Let's democratize Iran before they strike.
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Iran 'given Pakistan centrifuges'

Khan confessed last year to leaking nuclear secrets
Pakistan has confirmed that the former head of its nuclear weapons programme, AQ Khan, gave centrifuges for enriching uranium to Iran.
It is the first time Pakistani officials have publicised details of what nuclear materials the disgraced scientist passed on to Iran.

Information minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed told the BBC's Urdu service that "a few" centrifuges were involved.

Iran is under international pressure over its nuclear ambitions.

It says it intends to use enriched uranium only in power stations, but the US says Iran is making fuel for nuclear weapons.

'Personal capacity'

The Pakistani information minister stated again on Thursday that his government had no knowledge of Dr Khan's activities.


Click here to see how a gas centrifuge works
"He helped Iran in his personal capacity," he said, the Associated Press news agency reported.

Officials have consistently said that the government had no knowledge of Mr Khan's activities on the nuclear black market.


Why Pakistan's nuclear scandal still hits the news


Many analysts have questioned the veracity of these denials saying it would have been impossible for him to conceal his actions.

Dr Khan remains under close guard at his home in Islamabad.

The authorities have refused to allow experts from the UN nuclear watchdog, citing national security.

"We will not hand over [Dr Khan] to any other country," Mr Ahmed reiterated on Thursday.

Last month he dismissed reports that the US was probing whether Dr Khan had sold nuclear secrets to Arab nations.

European countries and the UN recently joined the US in criticising Iran for allegedly not keeping a pledge to suspend uranium enrichment activities.

UN atomic energy agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei said this month that the "ball is very much in Iran's court to come clean".

Nation shocked

The US has called Dr Khan the "biggest proliferator" of nuclear technology.

Labelled the father of Pakistan's nuclear programme, Dr Khan confessed last year to leaking nuclear secrets.

He said he took full responsibility for proliferating nuclear weapons to Iran, Libya and North Korea.

President Pervez Musharraf pardoned him, but the scandal embarrassed and traumatised Pakistan, and stunned world nuclear experts.

Dr Khan had held the post of scientific adviser since retiring as head of the country's top nuclear facility in 2001 but was sacked after his confession.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 03:35 pm
They'll send Israel in to blow it up.... mark my words...
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 08:12 am
I ran across this essay while surfing last night and saved it. While it was written a few years ago, it definitely provides points to mull and digest.

Quote:
Islam And Democracy
The Emerging Consensus

Our purpose in this essay is to examine the relationship between Islam and democracy more closely by focusing our discussion on three pertinent questions: How do Islamists view democracy? What has been their actual conduct in relation to democratic institutions and processes? Finally, under what circumstances would Islamists find democratic political process acceptable, and under what conditions would they deem it uncongenial for their Islamic goals?

http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2002/05/Article15.shtml
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 08:52 am
A pretty good essay for further discussions, I think:

Quote:

Understanding Arab Political Reality: One Lens Is Not Enough
We are witnessing unusual scenes in the Middle East. Mass demonstrations in Lebanon, joint protest rallies of Egyptian Islamists and liberals against the Mubarak regime in Egypt, and municipal elections in Saudi Arabia are just as much features of the current situation as are cease-fire declarations by Palestinian resistance movements and multiparty negotiations for forming a coalition government in Iraq.


Full report (PDF; 134 KB)

About the Author

Quote:
Amr Hamzawy is a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment, and a noted Egyptian political scientist who previously taught at Cairo University and the Free University of Berlin. His research interests include the changing dynamics of political participation and the prospects of democratic transformation in the Arab world, with special attention both to Egypt and the Gulf countries.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 08:56 am
Quote:
Evaluating Middle East Reform: How Do We Know When It Is Significant?

By Marina S. Ottaway
Summary

This short paper launches the second set of studies in the Carnegie Papers Middle East Series. The first set, now also published as a book under the title Uncharted Journey: Promoting Democracy in the Middle East, examined the most important issues concerning democracy promotion and democratic change in the Middle East.

One of the conclusions that emerged from those studies is that the Middle East still offers a rather discouraging political picture. There are some liberalized autocracies but no democratic countries in the region. The link between economic and political reform remains weak. Democratic reformers have failed to build strong constituencies, and the organizations with strong constituencies are Islamist rather than democratic.

The integration of Islamists in the reform process remains poor. And the United States, now championing democracy in the region, has little credibility in Arab eyes, and still has not consistently integrated democracy promotion in its policy toward the area. Yet, despite all these problems, it is becoming increasingly clear that there is a ferment of reform in the Middle East. But how signficant is it? The second set of papers will try to answer that question through case studies of individual countries.


Full text

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About the Author

Marina Ottaway is senior associate in the Democracy and Rule of Law Project at the Carnegie Endowment. She is the coeditor of Uncharted Journey: Promoting Democracy in the Middle East, and author of nine books, including Democracy Challenged: The Rise of Semi-Authoritarianism.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2005 01:34 pm
Reform in Europe was driven by a rising Middle Class, among other things.

I didn't realize that Wahhabism is not a minor strain of Islam in SA. It is the state religion, and members of the Wahhabi tribe have controlled the religion and education in SA since it's creation. Al Saud owes SA's existence to the Wahhabis.

The Wahhabis run SA.

I had to research SA recently, and things are not as they seem. All---ALL---indicators are pointing toward a cataclysmic demographic and social collapse. I think with this clearly in the offing, and more fighting in the Saudi streets than we hear about...and the rise of a Middle Class, who have just about had it with those sonsof bitches Wahhabi morals police, things will hit the fan within two years.

The status quo in SA cannot be maintained.

The recent vote (though it dosn't really have any teeth) was a necessary nod to these young people, who like their new found money, and want to be able to spend it as they choose.

Freedom. Hold on. It's a comin'.

Bush sped it up a decade.

HOORAY!!!!!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2005 01:54 pm
Lash wrote:
Reform in Europe was driven by a rising Middle Class, among other things.


Which reform, when and where in Europe do you mean?
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2005 05:22 pm
Walter, I'm sure you know. You do purport yourself to be fabulously educated.

C'Mon. Dazzle us with the significance of the new Middle Class in any ole revolution in Europe.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2005 07:00 pm
Lash wrote:
Walter, I'm sure you know. You do purport yourself to be fabulously educated.

C'Mon. Dazzle us with the significance of the new Middle Class in any ole revolution in Europe.


I can't believe you actually said that, Lash.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2005 07:16 pm
Well, damn.

You and I know he full well knows. I can't decide exactly why he behaves in such a manner whenever I make even the most mundane assertion--which is what this is.

Walter is extremely proud of his ability in a couple of languages, and his tidy bank of historical knowledge. I refuse to play a tired game with him, as if he doesn't know exactly what I'm referring to.

If I said something that wasn't true, please point it out. Otherwise, I'm assuming you are surprised that I actually said what you and others were thinking.

He perpetrates this "Oh, you think you know something, do you" BS on me so often, I think he's getting paid by quota for it.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 12:13 am
Actually I really don't know what you meant, Lash, and we truly have had a couple of reforms (later you say 'revolution') here in Europe.

If you refer to the most recent 'silent revolutions' in Eastern Europe: according to some studies, e.g. by the Carnegie Foundation, middle class there is in minority, with just up to 7% of population e.g. Russia.


Thus, I agree that your education is better than mine, because I don't get and therefore my question.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 01:06 pm
Reform-- To form again.

To make better by removing abuses, altering...

Revolution is reform.

Reform isn't necesarily revolution.

Yes. Reform happened every other Tuesday in Europe. I'm sure you know which involved a rising Middle Class.

Thus, I charge you with propagating BS.

<black mark by Walter's name for fibbing>
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 01:16 pm
Now I understand even less.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 01:22 pm
My work is done.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 01:26 pm
My time has not yet come.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 01:39 pm
It better hurry!
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