Mystical isle of medieval Arthurian literature

@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

I think the Wife of Bath's tale is about an Arthurian Knight

... who was a rapist.

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And so bifel that this kyng Arthour
Hadde in his hous a lusty bacheler,
That on a day cam ridynge fro ryver,
And happed that, allone as he was born,
He saugh a mayde walkynge hym biforn,
Of which mayde anon, maugree hir heed,
By verray force, he rafte hire maydenhed

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@centrox,

Memory's not too shot then, thanks.

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@coluber2001,

coluber2001 wrote:

Arthur has obtained a mythical status. Just like Jesus it's irrelevant whether he really existed or not, he represents something in all of us, if we can just recognize it. That's the power of myth.

Also like Arnold Rimmer.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

The greatest Arthurian manuscript in Britain prior to Malory is De gestis Britonum (On the Deeds of the Britons), later popularized as Historia regum Britanniae (The History of the Kings of Britain), written by Geoffrey of Monmouth in the early 12th century. It is so wildly, extravagantly implausible as to be an embarrassment to historians. When it refers to historical events recorded in other sources, it almost invariably disagrees, and appears to be wholly unreliable. It was damned popular, though. It was so silly, historically speaking, that it doesn't matter how old any manuscript copies are.

In my view it does serve one purpose. It summarizes the entire Arthurian legend as it existed at that time.

Anything that appears in literature only hundreds of years after that can be dismissed as not having an ancient source.

That doesn't mean that anything in The History of the Kings of Britain or in Monmouth's other writings about the topic is at all accurate. But his writings are useful as a filter against newer material.

I suspect that most of the stories about the Knights of the Round Table are based on Charlemagne's court. He actually did carve a civilized kingdom out of the barbarity of the Dark Ages. Knights were actually state of the art weapons during his time, and he used them to keep order in his kingdom. He also had knights that went out into the world righting wrongs and correcting injustices. And most of the stories about the Knights of the Round Table originated from French literature in the centuries after Charlemagne.

Charlemagne's knights would not have had full plate armor and stone castles though. More like chain mail and wooden motte and bailey castles.

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@Josip312,

The 'legend' of Arthur is bound to the land in which I dwell.
Triangulate stonehenge with lundy (Isle) and the quarry (S. Wales) from whence said stones were excavated.
Then study the Templars, pyramids, vesica pisces and the 432 megahertz frequency of the 'Earth's' vibration.
Get back to me when you're up-to-date.

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@mark noble,

I've got it.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a354/StuartB77/GrassyKnollington1.jpg

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@mark noble,

mark noble wrote:

The 'legend' of Arthur is bound to the land in which I dwell.
Triangulate stonehenge with lundy (Isle) and the quarry (S. Wales) from whence said stones were excavated.
Then study the Templars, pyramids, vesica pisces and the 432 megahertz frequency of the 'Earth's' vibration.
Get back to me when you're up-to-date.

In 1970 I moved to Bristol aged 18, I was a hippy, and all of a sudden all that ley-line stuff was no longer something I read about in "Oz", it was all around me. Glastonbury, Druids, pyramidology, "The Old Straight Track" by Alfred Watkins, etc. I was a bit sceptical but if it was a cool chick telling me I would just say "That's cool!" (it was 1970). Anyhow, I got a job as a surveyor's assistant on the Ordnance Survey. They were doing a national resurvey using modern technology, revising maps last done around 1890. We worked through Somerset starting at Portishead and got down as far as Bridgwater before I left, one kilometre square at a time. One thing that I soon learned was that there were difficulties where the squares met; detail that overlapped from one square to another, field boundaries, roads, etc, would not quite meet up. Where this could not be easily solved, what the surveyors would do was adopt an adjustment method called "sketching it in" (I kid you not). I learned that this was a historical thing, the maps had always been made to join up this way. I mentioned some of my friends using 25 inch to the mile 1890 series maps and rulers to plot ley lines and they burst out laughing. After, that is, I explained what ley-lines were.

https://maps.nls.uk/os/25inch-england-and-wales/img/25inch_home.jpg

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@centrox,

centrox wrote:

I mentioned some of my friends using 25 inch to the mile 1890 series maps and rulers to plot ley lines and they burst out laughing.

Of course, it would be even more silly using smaller scale maps.

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@mark noble,

Of course, none of that is true, other than it is legend, and not truth. According to the canonical naarative, Arthur was conceived in Cornwall, and born and raised in Devon, Dorset, Somerset, Hamptonshire, Glouscetershire, Oxfordshire, Berkshire or Wiltshire, depending upon whose version of where Camelot was one accepts. The Welsh certainly cashed in with fictitious stories once it became clear that there was money to be made from the exercise--but by no stretch of anyone's imagination (except perhaps yours), was Arthur a native, or even a denizen of Wales. As I have already explained, there is absolutely no reliable historical evidence that the joker ever existed.

The monastic, military order commonly (and inaccurately) referred to as the Knights Templar, was founded in the twelfth century, more than six hundred years after the latest date when the putative Arthur would have died. The pyramids were built thousands of years before that. The vesica piscis (if you're goging to peddle bullshit, at least try to get the spelling right) is nothing more than a geometric design, which has been used for all manner of superstitious woo-woo. The Schumann resonance occurs at approximately 7.83 herz, nowhere near a megaherz, never mind more than 400 megaherz.

You'll not even minimal credit for peddling bullshit which you didn't even propound.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Hamptonshire

Is that between Burkeshire and Darset?

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

The Schumann resonance occurs at approximately 7.83 herz, nowhere near a megaherz, never mind more than 400 megaherz.

If the earth did resonate at 400-something megahertz with a tee, I suspect UHF TV and communications would be kind of difficult.

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@centrox,

Nice insight, centrox.

Have you knowledge of 'younger-dryas/post-dryas'?
12,800-11,400.
Big melt, big freeze, pole-shift (Scandinavia-Montana-Current)?
Giza plateau-misalignment - Sphinx-tilt through (Leo).

Why Antarctica is now 1200miles further south, hence Atlantis - Frozen over?
Long story - Great insight.

Give it time - The 'independants' will join all the dots - Soon enough.

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@Setanta,

I agree - And don't care.
It was a thread, I passed information 'through'.
And, though limited and seemingly abstract, it joined dots, and sparked insight.

History is Bollux - Glad you've invested so much time in it.

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Ah, nit-pickers . . . you've got to love 'em. Of course, they are not nearly as entertaining as those who propose wildly improbable conspiracy theories.

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@mark noble,

There is a good deal of bollocks here, but I'm not the one who is peddling it.

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@Setanta,

Some folk spend their time researching bollux.
Some folk spend their time - Content sitting, daily (on a bollux-forum) posting bollux they acquired from a bollux-history that was indoctrinated into them from a bollux academical system, that regurgitates bollux - So sheeple continue to accept bollux, without question.

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@mark noble,

Some people are so confused, and addicted to dark conspiracy theories, that they can't tell bollocks when they step in it, and spread it all over the floor when they stomp around ranting.

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@Setanta,

Self-analysis?

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@mark noble,

I have not been ranting. That's more the style of "philosophers," especially those who have a penchant for spreading silly conspiracy theories around the site.

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@centrox,

I think it's someone's way of insulting those of us who live in Hampshire. And it's really cut me to the quick, I doubt I'll ever get over it. Eat your hearts out Oscar Wilde and George Bernard Shaw, there's a new kid in town and he's pulling no punches.

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