Michael Moore: Dems Are 'Wimps and Losers'

Just ask the African American men and women who were harrassed at the polls in Ohio.

"When trumpets were mellow
And every gal only had one fellow
No need to remember when
'Cause every thing old is new again

(Dancin' at) Your Long Island Jazz Age parties
Waiter, bring us more Bacardis
We'll order now what they ordered then
'Cause every thing old is new again"

Now, now, finn. I don't make assinine comments regarding your monicker. And besides, it would seem as though blind patriotism and fascism are coming back in style these days, brought to you by those who are too old to perhaps remember the core beliefs of a traditional conservative. Therefore, they are now referred to as "neo" conservatives. They may be new, but they certainly aren't any better.

It's also pretty hysterical listening to neoconservatives talk as though they are experts on what the Democratic Party needs to win. But Michael Moore is right regarding BOTH the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.

Why do you think the "people" chose an agitator's film as the most popular movie of last year?

...pushy republican challenger intimidates blacks on black turf....

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"When trumpets were mellow
And every gal only had one fellow
No need to remember when
'Cause every thing old is new again

(Dancin' at) Your Long Island Jazz Age parties
Waiter, bring us more Bacardis
We'll order now what they ordered then
'Cause every thing old is new again"

Now, now, finn. I don't make assinine comments regarding your monicker. And besides, it would seem as though blind patriotism and fascism are coming back in style these days, brought to you by those who are too old to perhaps remember the core beliefs of a traditional conservative.

Aside from being a non-sequitor, this is such a foolish statement in so many ways.

Therefore, they are now referred to as "neo" conservatives. They may be new, but they certainly aren't any better.

Whether or not "neo-conservatives" are "better" than any other variety of conservatives is in the eye of the beholder, but if you wish to intelligently discuss why neo-conservatisim may be noxious or just plain wrong, it would be helpful for you to understand the term and desist from using it as a synonym for "old bad people."

It's also pretty hysterical listening to neoconservatives talk as though they are experts on what the Democratic Party needs to win. But Michael Moore is right regarding BOTH the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.

Considering that Republicans in general, conservatives in particular, and specifically neo-conservatives have been politically more successful than all sorts of Democrats over the last four years, it's likely that they know more about what it takes to win than Democrats.

Why do you think the "people" chose an agitator's film as the most popular movie of last year?

It might be interesting to learn of how you came to the conclusion that Moore is so correct in regards to both parties. Surely the foundation of your conclusion is not the result of an award decided by a Gallup poll, but if it is, how do you explain the "Passion of Christ" also won a "People's Choice" award?

I hope the Democrats listen to Moore. I hope the Ted Kennedy wing of the party prevails and that the Democratic candidate in 2008 runs a leftwing course all the way. Not only will it assure a Republican victory, it may finally put a stake through the heart of the vampiric Left. But then, as long as their are people out there calling themselves Dookiestix, I'm sure there will be Liberals.

I hope the Democrats listen to Moore. I hope the Ted Kennedy wing of the party prevails and that the Democratic candidate in 2008 runs a leftwing course all the way. Not only will it assure a Republican victory, it may finally put a stake through the heart of the vampiric Left.

Finn, you reinforce my point spendidly.

"Stake in the heart of the Vamperic left?" Nice.

"Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future."
- Adolf Hitler

Is that what I attempting to do with a metaphor that describes the Left's ability to seemingly live on through mortal blow after mortal blow? If only a posting on A2K could demoralize the enemy. Now I suppose you will claim that you are using Hitler's quote only in a metaphorical sense.

Why should I explain Passion of the Christ winning a people's choice? That has nothing to do with Michael Moore. Besides, Mel likes Mike's movie. And you should have seen the Freepers running for the hills in their bloviating blogs on Freerepublic.com when he stated as such.

Well since you seem to suggest that awarding Moore the People's Choice tells us something very significant about the American people, not to mention the accuracy of Moore's opinions, I would think that it must say the same about Mel Gibson. Perhaps Mel does like Moore and his movies, but that hardly explains the seeming paradox of their both winning the People's Choice award. Since the award is an important indicator to you, I should think you would at least be interested in attempting to explain the paradox. I guess not.

Traditional conservatives are for fiscal restraint, state's rights, lower taxes, and, at one point, conservation of the environment. It was Teddy Roosevelt's cornerstone policy. Where do you think conservative CAME from? Conservation!

And this little piece of political science is relevant because...?

Neoconservatives have been against everything but tax cuts to the filthy rich. They could care less about global warming, be it man-made or not. They could care less about voting rights. If Gunga insists that Democrats are the one's cheating, then why couldn't Republicans allow an investigation in Ohio? Afterall, wasn't it all Democrats intimidating the voters, as Gunga seems to suggest?

Another incoherent argument from friend Dookie predicated upon an childish insistence on using neo-conservative for boogeyman.

Not all that amazing, I'm afraid.

Amazing.

No, nimh. My answer isn't silly. It's one way of saying you don't know anything about American politics if you were serious with that guy from Tennesee.

Tennesee...a no-name...in the middle of the death rattle of the Democrat party? No way. No how. If they did throw up such a candidate--it would be the last nail in their coffin.

Lash wrote:

No, nimh. My answer isn't silly. It's one way of saying you don't know anything about American politics if you were serious with that guy from Tennesee.

Saying Michael Moore stands for the Democratic Party is as silly as saying Rush Limbaugh stands for the Republican Party. They make a lot of noise, they're much more media-visible than any governor or senator, they keep the fire stoked and build some populist pressure from the Believers. They shape the rhetorics those Believers speak in. But they're outside the party, and in the end are no contenders compared to the actual party policymakers and eventual front men, some of whom we've probably hardly even heard of yet.

<shrugs>

Even Gunga knows to "keep the democrat party and the concept of leftists separate".

Kennedy and Kerry; Pelosi and Boxer; Lehey and Levin et al - Theses are the voices of the Democratic Party.

Do they sound a bit like Michael Moore?

...Brooks was perhaps the only comic around who could make the twinkly-eyed, tippling Martin seem sober by comparison. For his variety show guest spots Brooks usually appeared as a monologist but sometimes came on as a bombed TV executive or tipsy husband in sketches. Questioned about being drunk, he might cock a bleary eye at his antagonist and announce, "I must say that I have a very good reason for bein' loaded." Then after an unsteady pause: "I been drinkin' all day!"

Tell you who Teddy Kennedy is starting to sound more and more like:

Foster Brooks.

gungasnake wrote:

Tell you who Teddy Kennedy is starting to sound more and more like:

Foster Brooks.

I always thought Foster Brooks did a mean Ted Kennedy impersonation.