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2018 Fantasy Winter Olympics (new format)

 
 
markr
 
Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2018 11:49 pm
There was little response to tgordon92's query about starting a Fantasy Olympics 2018, so maybe folks are just waiting for someone to kick it off.

I'm interested in trying something a bit different based on a brief conversation some of us had after the 2016 Olympics. This is not intended to replace or compete with the old way of doing it. Here's what I'll do if enough people are interested:

tl;dr:
Each country will be assigned a cost.
Each contestant will receive a budget.
Select as many countries as you wish without exceeding the budget.
Scoring is the same as in past contests: gold=5, silver=3, bronze=1.
Ties will be broken in favor of the cheaper team.
Budget and country costs are listed below.

Long version:
Gracenote (http://sportsdemo1.gracenote.com/documentation/vmt) has been publishing their predictions for medal totals for almost a year. I've held off announcing this contest because they only recently included the Russian athletes (OAR). I won't be surprised if they post new predictions between now and the start of the Olympics, but I'm going with the current (as of Jan. 31) predictions to give folks time to select countries. Using the same scoring system as in the past (gold=5, silver=3, bronze=1), Gracenote's predictions can be turned into total predicted points for each country. The cost of each country is the predicted point total for that country. Countries that are predicted not to win any medals cost 0.50.

Contestants in this alternate version of Fantasy Olympics 2018 will be given a budget. The budget is the cost of the top three countries minus 0.50. This precludes selecting the top three countries (an arbitrary choice on my part), and it forces selecting at least one country that is expected not to medal (assuming you consume your whole budget).

The only constraints on the number of countries you may choose are the budget and the number of countries that are competing. You are not required to consume your whole budget.

Ties will be broken based on the costs of the contestants' teams (collection of countries). For example, if two folks tie with 330 points, but one spent 320 and the other spent 318, the one spending less (318 in this example) would win the tie-breaker.

Code:
Budget: 323.50

Country Cost
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Norway (NOR) 120
Germany (GER) 119
United States (USA) 85
Canada (CAN) 77
France (FRA) 76
Netherlands (NED) 60
Sweden (SWE) 47
Switzerland (SUI) 45
Austria (AUT) 43
South Korea (KOR) 39
China (CHN) 38
Japan (JPN) 38
Olympic Athlete from Russia (OAR) 22
Czech Republic (CZE) 18
Italy (ITA) 18
Australia (AUS) 14
Poland (POL) 11
Finland (FIN) 10
Belarus (BLR) 7
Slovakia (SVK) 6
Latvia (LAT) 5
Spain (ESP) 5
Great Britain (GBR) 4
Hungary (HUN) 4
Liechtenstein (LIE) 3
Belgium (BEL) 2
Kazakhstan (KAZ) 1
Ukraine (UKR) 1
all others 0.50

 
markr
 
  1  
Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2018 12:14 am
@markr,
Deadline for entering is 22:00 PST (10:00 p.m. California time) on Friday, Feb 9.

I forgot to mention that this format should produce relatively close results top to bottom if the teams are comprised mainly of countries that are predicted to win medals.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2018 01:16 am
Team Oralloy:

Code:Norway (NOR) 120
Germany (GER) 119
Netherlands (NED) 60
Olympic Athlete from Russia (OAR) 22


Total budget spent: 321 points.

Unspent budget: 2.5 points.
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jespah
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2018 08:50 am
Quick q (don't think I'll have the time to play; this is more because I'm curious) - if a team doesn't spend their budget, can they carry over the difference? Trade it?
George
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2018 09:23 am
Code:Budget 323.50
Spent 323.50

United States (USA) 85
Canada (CAN) 77
Netherlands (NED) 60
South Korea (KOR) 39
Japan (JPN) 38
Italy (ITA) 18
Slovakia (SVK) 6
Croatia (CRO) 0.50

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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2018 10:45 am
@jespah,
jespah wrote:
if a team doesn't spend their budget, can they carry over the difference? Trade it?

Not by my understanding of the rules. I think unspent budget merely confers a tiebreaking advantage.
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markr
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2018 11:45 am
@jespah,
Quote:
Quick q (don't think I'll have the time to play; this is more because I'm curious) - if a team doesn't spend their budget, can they carry over the difference? Trade it?


I'm not sure where it would be carried over to, but no.
It would be unfair to allow someone to have a larger budget than others, so no trading.

Use it, or lose it (but maybe have an advantage in a tie breaker).
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markr
 
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Reply Sat 3 Feb, 2018 12:23 am
@markr,
Code:
Canada (CAN) 77
Netherlands (NED) 60
Sweden (SWE) 47
Switzerland (SUI) 45
South Korea (KOR) 39
Italy (ITA) 18
Finland (FIN) 10
Belarus (BLR) 7
Slovakia (SVK) 6
Great Britain (GBR) 4
Hungary (HUN) 4
Belgium (BEL) 2
Kazakhstan (KAZ) 1
Ukraine (UKR) 1
New Zealand (NZL) 0.50
Slovenia (SLO) 0.50
Romania (ROU) 0.50
Estonia (EST) 0.50
Croatia (CRO) 0.50

Spent: 323.50/323.50
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 04:36 pm
@jespah,
jespah wrote:
don't think I'll have the time to play;

Actually I don't think it'll take much time. Just pick your countries, then come back and see how your many medals your countries won when the Olympics are over.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 05:54 pm
@markr,


Code:
Budget: 323.50

Country Cost
--------------------------------------
Germany (GER) 119
Canada (CAN) 77
Netherlands (NED) 60
Japan (JPN) 38
Denmark 17
Belarus (BLR) 7
Great Britain (GBR) 4
Argentina 0.5
Azerbaijan 0.5
South Africa 0.5


323.5
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 08:29 pm
Public service announcement for those planning to watch the Olympics:

There will be Olympic sports taking place BEFORE the opening ceremony. Most notably, the team figure skating event will hold its first round of competition Thursday evening (North America Eastern Time).

If you're interested in seeing this, don't start paying attention to your TV Friday night. If you do, you'll have already missed the first night of figure skating.


For anyone interested, here is the entire figure skating schedule (again, North America Eastern Time):
Code:Thursday, Feb. 8 Team event: Men's and pairs short programs 8:00 p.m.
Saturday, Feb. 10 Team event: Short dance, ladies short, pairs free 8:00 p.m.
Sunday, Feb. 11 Team event: Men's & ladies free skate, free dance 8:00 p.m.
Tuesday, Feb. 13 Pairs short program 8:00 p.m.
Wednesday, Feb. 14 Pairs free skate 8:30 p.m.
Thursday, Feb. 15 Men's short program 8:00 p.m.
Friday, Feb. 16 Men's free skate 8:00 p.m.
Sunday, Feb. 18 Ice dance short dance 8:00 p.m.
Monday, Feb. 19 Ice dance free dance 8:00 p.m.
Tuesday, Feb. 20 Ladies short program 8:00 p.m.
Thursday, Feb. 22 Ladies free skate 8:00 p.m.
Saturday, Feb. 24 Exhibition gala 7:30 p.m.

Nice of them to schedule their skating for the convenience of the North American audience.

Data cut-n-pasted from Sports Illustrated:
http://www.si.com/olympics/2017/10/18/winter-olympics-2018-figure-skating-schedule
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 08:35 pm
@oralloy,
Thanks for this schedule. We'll be super-cheering for Gabrielle Daleman (Newmarket, Ont.) on the Canadian team. We know her grand-dad and he's over the moon excited.
wheel158
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 08:43 pm
Thanks for setting this up, markr! I'll email my crew and let them know they have two days left to join.
markr
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 09:07 pm
@wheel158,
Great! I was wondering if anybody was going to show up.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 09:14 pm
markr - can you add a 'sports' tag to the thread - please and thank you Smile

don't want to lose track

I've popped invites into a couple of other fantasy sports team threads here
markr
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 09:16 pm
@ehBeth,
Hi ehBeth,
I don't think it benefits you to spend 17 on Denmark when it costs only 0.5. You've got 16.5 unspent with your current team.
markr
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 09:18 pm
@ehBeth,
Done, and thanks for spreading the word.
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ehBeth
 
  1  
Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 09:27 pm
@markr,
oops

I think that might be the team member count!

I'll have to see who I dumped to make room for Denmark and see if they fit
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ehBeth
 
  1  
Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 09:36 pm
@ehBeth,
Code:
Budget: 323.50

Country Cost
--------------------------------------
Germany (GER) 119
Canada (CAN) 77
Netherlands (NED) 60
Japan (JPN) 38
Denmark 0.5
Finland (FIN) 10
Belarus (BLR) 7
Latvia (LAT) 5
Great Britain (GBR) 4
Argentina 0.5
Azerbaijan 0.5
South Africa 0.5


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fbaezer
 
  1  
Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2018 09:54 pm
Norway 120
Germany 119
South Korea 39
Italy 18
Australia 14
Belarus 7
Hungary 4
Kazakhstan 1
New Zealand 0.5
Slovenia 0.5

323.0
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