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Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 09:11 am
@oralloy,
didja notice the 60 minutes story on the Abacos islands who are getting tired of their diesel powered plants getting wiped out by ever- more powerful hurricanes fueled by climate change and are going to solar grids which are lsess prone to CC damage. Solar keeps dropping in cost as does the battery power to store it.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 09:13 am
@MontereyJack,
If renewables can generate enough to meet our needs, great.

But if renewables can't supply 100% of what we need, then the rest of the power will have to come from somewhere else.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 09:20 am
@oralloy,
Caught ya. Another rolling whiteout. what nonsense are you going to fill it with when you gather your wits. Incidentally, if I remember the statistic correctly, the Bahamas have suffered 5 cat 5 hurricanes in the last decade, compared with nokn in the several decades before that. They don't think CC is cherry picking and they're trying to survive through it.
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hightor
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 10:57 am
An official at the Interior Department embarked on a campaign that has inserted misleading language about climate change — including debunked claims that increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is beneficial — into the agency’s scientific reports, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 11:01 am
@hightor,
Gasp !!!! Heresy !!! The sky is falling in .
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 11:03 am
@oralloy,
As a liar, you are expected to deny your lies. That’s pretty much your only option in fact.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 11:08 am
@georgeob1,
ACTUALLY THIS IS RETURNED TO HIGHTOR

Thats the popular redux of some earlier **** I used to cleave to."CLIMATE CHANGE IS FOREVER WITH US AND SEEING HUMANKINDS EFFECTS ARE INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM NATURAL TRENDS"

The fact that we can see whats happening now and how its taken a peak upward, v the O16/18 data that what we see from cores of the Post Pleiocene is nowhere near the rapid trends weve seen into the last century alone.
You can try to ebunk it all you wish but the "hockey stick" is factual data compounded on many many years of temperature points and trends that have nothing to do with anything except atmospheric buildup of burn gases and water vapor and methane.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 11:08 am
@MontereyJack,
??????
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 11:18 am
@Olivier5,
No lies on my end. Cherry picking and data suppression by climate journals has been exposed for all to see.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 11:22 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

No lies on my end. The cherry picking and data suppression have been exposed for all to see.

You’re hallucinating.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 11:24 am
@Olivier5,
Nope. I'm not hallucinating.

What you are observing in me is the wisdom to disregard unreliable conclusions derived from cherry-picked data.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 11:38 am
@oralloy,
youve never ever prepared or have gone through a technical critique of what you call "cherry picked data". ALL data that is based on monitoring or sequential or trend surface is basically "cherry picked"> Thats not anything that discounts it. Its a matter of how sequential data is collected and assessed.
If your capability at analyses of core data is superior to Dick ALley's , please send in an abstract to AGU and you will be guaranteed a spot expecially if it pretends to be factually relevant.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 11:59 am
@oralloy,
Nope. What I am seeing is delusion and stupidity, posing as wisdom and science in front of their mirror.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 12:01 pm
@Olivier5,
I'm the one with the 170 IQ. You're the one who is much less intelligent.

You cannot point out anything untrue in my posts.

I have never claimed to represent science. I merely doubt the legitimacy of certain others who claim to represent science.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 12:22 pm
@oralloy,
Even if you had the IQ you believe you have, you'd still make mistakes. Very intelligent people often make enormous, spectacular mistakes, precisely because they think they are so much smarter than the rest.
livinglava
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 05:55 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

The left's hopes of imposing socialist-style rolling blackouts on the American people are silly. The voters are not going to stand for it.

The American people are going to have their power needs met. Whether the power comes from coal, nuclear, or fracking doesn't matter. But it's going to come from somewhere.

And if the environmental movement blocks nuclear and fracking, that leaves coal.

You forget that conservation serves as a source of energy when lesser amounts of energy used in one application liberate that energy for other uses.

An LED bulb that uses 5W, for example, liberates 10W of power used by a CFL bulb of equal luminosity, and that 10W of power that's freed up can be used elsewhere.

It's the energy equivalent of 'a penny saved is a penny earned.'

People just have to learn to be satisfied with smaller heated/cooled areas, more natural ventilation, more efficient transportation, etc. - all of which use less energy per capita.

They reject conservation because they don't understand how less can be equivalent to more, but just look at a flat screen TV compared with a CRT TV, or LED bulbs compared with incandescent bulbs, and it's easy to see how less energy can be made to achieve the same level of satisfaction.

Big energy uses like heating/cooling and transportation are harder sells, but it's because the energy and motor-vehicle sectors promote their products as superior in order to avoid losing revenues.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 06:27 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
I'm the one with the 170 IQ.


Man, you can't beat this place for unintentional comedy.
snood
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 06:39 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

oralloy wrote:
I'm the one with the 170 IQ.


Man, you can't beat this place for unintentional comedy.


No, man I mean seriously, I’m like reeaal smart. My momma had me measured!🤪
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 09:11 pm
@snood,
Why do you get so upset at those of us who are smarter than you?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 09:13 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Man, you can't beat this place for unintentional comedy.

What is funny about the fact that my IQ is 170?
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