IRAQ: no WMD's - nothing, zero, nada, zip, f#ck-all

That makes more sense than the oil theory (which isn't asking for much)...

Yet again - here's the facts and figures...


Every day the oil-fields of Iraq yield up 2.5m bbls of crude.
This is worth at least $US40 a bbl.
That is $100,000,000 every day - every f*cking day for at least a year.
If you divided the population of Iraq by the total figure they should be so fu#king rich the Saudis would be lining up to emigrate there.
But they're not - the average Iraqi has little infrastructure, no security and often no food. They also have chronic fuel shortages.


Conclusions:
Some-one is making themselves VERY, VERY, VERY rich
It is not the Iraqis.
We are all being lied to? You bet!

And yet I do not read anything like that in the democrat controlled mainstream media which had no qualms about fabricating destroy-george-bush stories out of whole cloth in an all out effort to establish John the F'ing gigolo Kerry in the whitehouse.

The only conclusion I could draw is that if anybody is thus getting fabulously wealthy in Iraq, it has to be democrats and/or others favored and protected by the MSM.

yes,,yes,,yes,, Gungasnake, it's all been a twisted plot by the Democrats all along to enrich themselves. It was they who fed the WMD idea to Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney all those years ago and it must have been them who came up with the idea of pre-emptive war as well.

Spreading Democracy around the world, centering it in the Middle East, that doesn't sound like a Republican idea does it? To be a nation-building nation? Pshaw, that must have been the Democrats poisoning the President's mind.

Who else would want to destroy our allies in the Middle East? Who else wants democratic elections in the Middle East?? Not the Republicans, at least not till they started believing the lies of the MSM. Not the Saudis, not the Egyptians, not the Jordanians or the Syrians, I'm talking about the rulers of those nations, because they know if they held a democratic election in their country the people would vote in an Islamic Republic which is not at all like a GOP Republican Republic. (Watch what happens next week in Iraq.)

Somebody in the Bush Administration needs to ask the Emir of Qatar how he feels about losing his job to a publicly elected mullah. You think it sounds fine to him?

But back to the Democrats and how they pulled this off and what's in it for them. What they have been doing for years now is getting out of politics and into oil futures. That's right. Bill Clinton has been buying every oil future he can find, and so has Daschle, I'll bet. In fact, what you are seeing is a complete withdrawal from power by the Democrats so the Republicans have to take the blame when oil prices go through the roof (they are already banging on the rafters, but you ain't seen nothing yet.)

So, in review, you are right. It was B.Clinton who fooled little Dick Cheney into fooling the President into invading Iraq so the whole region would descend into the hands of the Islamic caliphs (which is what Osama wants btw) while those savvy Democrats sit back and enjoy their retirement years.

Wow. Alert the media. No, wait, they are behind it too.

Joe(Remember to snap on your mind's seatbelt when you think these ideas.) Nation

Joe Nation
You have just given the snake several new theories to use as protective armor for his beloved republican icon. Can't wait to see how he incorporates them into his delusions. :wink:

Hi Joe,

nice job. the snake will fry his brain trying to understand what you have said.

snake, if the truth fell on your head you still wouldn't recognize it. bush went from wmd to giving the iraqi people freedom to saddam was just a bad guy to justify this war. none of which holds any water.

as for your comments about how we could just buy the oil, consider this: if saddam was not happy with our treatment of him and was cozying up to russia and china to strike oil deals with the idea that these two security council members would support removal of the sanctions on iraq, we would be on the outside looking in at the 2nd largest oil reserve on earth.

are you getting it yet. this was a preemptive strike to prevent our biggest competitors from getting the prize.

Simple basic reality: If ANYBODY was making a hundred million dollars a day from Iraqi oil, you wouldn't have read anything else on the front pages of the WashingtonPost, the NY Times, or any other outlet of the axis of pinko disinformation for the last year.

Viewed from the perspective of the over-populated middle east, the real problem is water. When you consider that the vast aquafer that lies under the American prairie is being drained and just how dirty the oceans are, the problem is spreading.

Women: one pregnancy and one only for the next century if you want to save the planet. Have your baby, then a tubal ligation.

And since demand pushes up price (basic economics, guys), yes, from the perspective of the West, the whole thing with Saddam was about oil.

All: dial down your thermostats to 62 degrees; walk more often; get a small cart to lug your groceries; shut off lights when you leave rooms; line dry your clothes. Remember, your right to swing your arm ends where another's nose begins. Take responsibility now!

From The Independent (U.K.) : "Once an American regime is installed in Baghdad, our oil companies will have access to 112 billion barrels of oil. With unproven reserves, we might actually end up controlling almost a quarter of the world's total reserves....The US Department of Energy announced at the beginning of this month that by 2025, US oil imports will account for perhaps 70 per cent of total US domestic demand. (It was 55 per cent two years ago.) As Michael Renner of the Worldwatch Institute put it bleakly this week, "US oil deposits are increasingly depleted, and many other non-OPEC fields are beginning to run dry. The bulk of future supplies will have to come from the Gulf region." No wonder the whole Bush energy policy is based on the increasing consumption of oil. Some 70 per cent of the world's proven oil reserves are in the Middle East."

the link for my above post:
http://www.uwec.edu/grossmzc/philligr.html

rafick

great facts. the question is why isn't this being covered in the american press? it might be construed as a national crisis.

or, it could be that the oil companies are just positioning themselves to control solar and wind energy when the spigot runs dry.

could be.......

yes cavolina could be...

But what is clear are the huge amounts at stake in what is being billed as the biggest reconstruction effort since the second world war. The cost of reconstruction has been put as high as $100bn and could last several years. It is assumed that those in at the first will have significant advantage in bidding for future deals, including the exploitation of Iraq's oil industry.

the answer to why its not covered in the press is obvious
who controls the media? do some research and you will find out.

rafick

could it be murdoch and sinclair?

WHO CONTROLS THE MEDIA


What do Arnaud de Borchgrave, editor-in-cheif of the
"conservative" Washington Times, and Max Frankel, top dog at the
"liberal" New York Times, have in common?
At least one thing, at any rate; Both are members of the
Rockefeller family's private and secretive international
pressure group known as the Council on Foreigh Relations (CFR).
De Borchgrave and Frankel join a long list of powerful media
personalities, who are members of the CFR and/or of the
Trilaterial Commission (TC), another Rockefeller family front
group that plays a major role in shaping U.S. foriegn policy.
Rockefeller influence on the media is immense, particularly
on the major television networks. In fact, according to
researcher Peter Borsnan, the Rockefeller family's Chase
Manhatan Bank ( and the other Rockefeller institutions)are among
the largest holders of network stock, with substancial interests
in all three networks.
Chase Manhattan controls fully 14 percent of CBS stock. Stock
analysts note that with stock widely distributed among
shareholders, institutions can weild influence or outright
control with 5 percent, sometimes as little as 1 or 2 percent,
equity.
The accompanying chart shows some of the major media figures
(aapast and present)--editors, reporters, corporate directors,
and others--who belong or have belonged to the CFR and the TC.

CFR/TC MEDIA DOMINATION

CBS

William Paley CFR
William Burden CFR
Roswell Gilpatric CFR
James Houghton CFR
Henry Schacht CFR/TC
Marietta Tree CFR
C.C. Collingswood CFR
Laurence LaSueur CFR
Dan Rather CFR
Harry Reasoner CFR
Richard Hottelet CFR
Frank Stanton CFR
Bill Moyers CFR

NBC/RCA

Jane Pfeiffer CFR
Lester Crystal CFR
R.W. Sonnenfeldt CFR
T.F. Bradshaw CFR
John Petty CFR
David Brinkley CFR
John Chancellor CFR
Marvin Kalb CFR
Irving Levine CFR
H. Schlosser CFR
P.G. Peterson CFR/TC
Jown Sawhill CFR/TC

ABC

Ray Adam CFR
Frank Cary CFR
John Connor CFR
T.M. Macioce CFR
Ted Koppel CFR
John Scalli CFR
Barbara Walters CFR

PUBLIC BROADCASTING SERVICE

Hartford Gunn CFR
Robert McNeil CFR
Jim Lehrer CFR
C. Hunter-Gault CFR
Hodding Carter III CFR
Daniel Schorr CFR

ASSOCIATED PRESS

Keith Fuller CFR
Stanley Swinton CFR
Louis Boccardi CFR
Harold Anderson CFR
Katherine Graham CFR

U.P.I.

H. L. Stevenson CFR

REUTERS

Michael Posner CFR

BOSTON GLOBE

David Rogers CFR

BALTIMORE SUN

Henry Trewhitt CFR

NEW YORK TIMES CO.

Richard Gelb CFR
James Reston CFR
William Scranton CFR/TC
A.M. Rosenthal CFR
Seymore Topping CFR
James Greenfield CFR
Max Frankel CFR
Jack Rosenthal CFR
Harding Bancroft CFR
Amory Bradford CFR
Orvil Dryfoos CFR
David Halberstram CFR
Walter Lippmann CFR
L.E. Markel CFR
H.L. Matthews CFR
John Oakes CFR
Adolph Ochs CFR
Harrison Salisbury CFR
A. Hays Sulzberger CFR
A. Ochs Sulzberger CFR
C.L. Sulzberger CFR
H.L. Smith CFR
Steven Rattner CFR
Richard Burt CFR

TIME INC.

Ralph Davidson CFR
Donald M. Wilson CFR
Louis Banks CFR
Henry Grunwald CFR
Alexander Heard CFR
Sol Linowitz CFR/TC
Rawleigh Warner Jr. CFR
Thomas Watson Jr. CFR

WASHINGTON POST/NEWSWEEK

Katherine Graham CFR
Phillip Graham CFR
Arjay Miller CFR
N. deB. Katzenbach TC
Frederick Beebe CFR
Robert Christopher CFR
Osborne Elliot CFR
Phillip Geyelin CFR
Kermit Lausner CFR
Murry Marder CFR
Malcomb Muir CFR
Maynard Parker CFR
George Will CFR
Robert Kaiser CFR
Meg Greenfield CFR
Walter Pincus CFR
Murray Gart CFR
Peter Osnos CFR
Don Oberdorfer CFR

DOW JONES & CO. (WALL ST. JOURNAL)

William Agee CFR
J. Paul Austin TC
Charles Mayer CFR
Robert Potter CFR
Richard Wood CFR
Robert Bartley CFR
Karen House CFR

NATIONAL REVIEW

Wm. F. Buckley Jr. CFR
Richard Brookhiser CFR

WASHINGTON TIMES

Arnaud de Borchgrave CFR

Gunga said:


Boy, you really have no idea how stupid you sound when you spew such ridiculous tripe such as the aforementioned quote.

It really is rather impossible to take you even remotely seriously when you utter such crap.

Perhaps you can explain why we're building many America military bases in Iraq. I thought the Iraqi people were going to govern their OWN country? I thought that the enormous revenues from their oil sale would more than adequately pay for the operations taking place over there. so why ask for billions upon billions more every year from Congress to support this fake war in Iraq? I mean, afterall, the real reason why we went in was because Saddam could attack our country with nuclear weapons in 45 minutes.

Neoconservatives: You guys would support a stinking pile of rat feces if it got you enough power in Washington.

Really very sad...

Right on Dookiestix, gunga is

very smart mr bush, his book is upside down

oh and another one

You say this, and then finish with this

Problem is, we've seen what happens when Americans elect not to have children; our government invites the entire third world in to take up the slack and then we get to pay for all of THEIR kids in the form of schools, hospitals etc. etc. etc.

My advice to ordinary middle-class Americans at this juncture would be to completely forget about birth control for the next thirty years.

Fortunately, noone listens to you about anything.

Cycloptichorn