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(language) Usage of Preclude

 
 
Reply Mon 27 Nov, 2017 07:14 pm
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preclude
1.V-T If something precludes an event or action, it prevents the event or action from happening.


Hello, the above is the definition of "preclude" in my dictionary. And the example sentence in the dictionary aslo uses an event as the subject.

I wonder whether it is wrong if I use a person as the subject. For example,
" I prevent him from going to movie". Is this sentence grammatically correct?

Thanks!
 
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Tue 28 Nov, 2017 09:14 pm
@iclearwater,
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" I prevent him from going to movie". Is this sentence gram
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iclearwater
 
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2017 05:16 am
@dalehileman,
Thank you for your reply.

'prevent' is a typo of mine for "preclude" in the sentence of " I prevent him from going to movie".

I mean whether it is correct "I preclude him from going to movie".

I ask this question because the subjects are things but not persons in the examples illustrated in my dictionary.

Would you please help me with this?

And do you mean you worked for journalism? I'm not sure I understand what you wrote.
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2017 07:26 am
Preclude is often used to describe the status of inanimate objects, but may be used as a verb with persons as the subject.

My dictionary gives this example: These facts precluded his arguments .

And also defines it as "to keep out or exclude" as in: to preclude ambassadors from a country.

"Dale" has OCD about abbreviations, thus creating his own code. He insists on confusing ESL students and most other folks. He has been asked not to do that and we know he can write correctly, but apparently prefers to be obstinate.



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dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2017 11:43 am
@iclearwater,
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"I preclude him from going to movie"... ask ... because the subjects are things but not persons
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And do you mean you worked for journalism?
ENTIRE LIFE, ENGAGED THEREIN. Oops, then there's it's proximity to Tab

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I'm not sure I understand what you wrote.
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centrox
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2017 12:31 pm
There is some overlap between "preclude" and both "prevent" and "exclude". They may sometimes be almost interchangeable, but certainly not always.

I would say that preclude is used to indicate that one event or circumstance prevents another event or circumstance from happening. It indicates cause and effect.

She suffered an injury that precluded the possibility of an athletic career.
i.e. The injury prevented her from pursuing an athletic career.
She couldn't pursue an athletic career because of the injury.

Bad weather precluded any further attempts to reach the summit.
i.e. The bad weather prevented them from making any further attempts to reach the summit.
They couldn't make any further attempts to reach the summit because of the bad weather.

The secret nature of his work precluded official recognition.
i.e. His work could not be officially recognised because it was secret.

One dictionary definition seems quite explanatory:

Remove the possibility of; rule out; prevent or exclude; to make impossible.

and, helpfully, gives an example of not precluding:

It has been raining for days, but that doesn’t preclude the possibility that the skies will clear by this afternoon!

i.e. it could still be a clear afternoon even though it has been raining for days.
Using not preclude in this fashion is also fairly common.

dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2017 12:39 pm
@centrox,
Cen you always spell'em out so much better'n me
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iclearwater
 
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2017 06:10 pm
Thank you very much for helping me out, everyone.
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