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Evolutionry/religious nonsense

 
 
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jan, 2019 09:30 am


That's what happens when you eat apples.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jan, 2019 11:57 am
@eurocelticyankee,
His interpretation of Genesis is Quite terrible, as his comedy 😉

https://biblehub.com/revelation/20-2.htm
The ‘serpent’ is and Was NOt a snake.
(A snake may have appeared to have spoken if anything, an illusion)

Both God and angels can ‘use’ people.
https://biblehub.com/matthew/16-23.htm
Here, Peter, a man who loved Jesus was being used to speak misinformation.

Those who preach evolutionism are likewise being used to deceive with this type of an illusion Sad

Also, why God used a Rib from Adam is quite interesting!
https://creation.com/regenerating-ribs-adam-and-that-missing-rib

Lastly, this is interesting too:
http://apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=13&article=1118
Medical knowledge Why God commanded circumcision on the eighth day of life. 😎



cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jan, 2019 12:10 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
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Those who preach evolutionism are likewise being used to deceive with this type of an illusion Sad
Your message is the "illusion." Evolution has evidence to support it. Your 2,000 year old book has no such thing as evidence to back up its many errors and contradictions. Which of god's commandments do you follow? a) thou shalt not kill, or b) kill all non-believers? Dating the earth from the Bible shows it's about 7,000 years old. Scientists have determined that earth is over 4.5 billion years old. Which one do you believe?
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vikorr
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2019 12:54 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
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I do enjoy ppl of the evolution faith explaining how evolution works, and how it has apparently turned cows into whales
If you came to the conclusion that any evolutionist told you this - you simply haven't been listening.

There are by the way, intelligent design supporters, who also agree with evolution. They simply believe that the creation story in the bible is a very generalised story (that's being kind), and that God guides evolution.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2019 06:59 am
@vikorr,
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There are by the way, intelligent design supporters, who also agree with evolution. They simply believe that the creation story in the bible is a very generalised story (that's being kind), and that God guides evolution.
Very true, but why is regarding the Bible's creation story as 'generalized' being generous?

If you as creator set out to reveal to Moses (or whoever) how he went about it, how else other than in visions or concepts that a man of that era could articulate in writing? A scientifically accurate description of designing then creating quarks that self assembled themselves in tinker-toy fashion and then proceeded according to the invisible four forces of physics as far as they can go, is not something that miserable soul had the ability to comprehend well enough to write down. Personally, I'm ******* amazed he came as close as he did.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2019 01:43 pm
@vikorr,
That's supported by the fact that many christians are scientists. They need to rationalize their religious' beliefs with the scientific findings that contradicts creationism.
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vikorr
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2019 02:55 pm
@Leadfoot,
Ah, I couldn't at the time think of the correct phrase. Representational story would have been accurate.

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Hi CI, yeah, I agree to a large degree. That said, it's not a viewpoint that can be disproved by science.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2019 03:18 pm
@vikorr,
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That said, it's not a viewpoint that can be disproved by science.
. Yes, it can. It depends on what the religious' claim is.
vikorr
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2019 04:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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It depends on what the religious' claim is.
In relation tor The need to rationalize their religious' beliefs with the scientific findings that contradicts creationism - the discussion was specifically in the context of "God guiding evolution" was it not?

That is the viewpoint that I said science can't disprove.

If they held to the 6000 years, and the creation story, absolutely science disproves that.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2019 05:26 pm
@vikorr,
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"God guiding evolution"
has no evidence; it's based on faith. According to some sources, there are more than 1,000 religions practiced around the world. Which one or how many gods are directing this evolution?
vikorr
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2019 06:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Yep, it has no evidence and is based on faith. And is at the same time something science can't disprove. And saying something can't be disproven, is not the same as saying it can be proven.

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Which one or how many gods are directing this evolution?
My guess? None.

This is an odd conversation.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2019 08:35 pm
@vikorr,
It is an odd discussion. It's about an invisible something nobody can see or hear based on some book written 2,000 years ago. People talk to "it," although no answer or response is given to wishes and requests. When something happens after a prayer, they give credit to their god, but nothing is said when it's not. In wars and sports, both sides pray to god to win. On our currency, it says, "In God We Trust." That's quite an empty trust. Money is used in evil ways 24/7. What is "evil" is also a very subjective topic. Your lotto ticket is gambling, but your donation to church is .......? Is heaven the reward? Isn't that a gamble? Okay, somebody, enlighten me?
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Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2019 10:13 pm
‘Which one or how many gods are directing this evolution?’

Zero of them. There has been, and is no evolution of cows to whales, reptiles to birds, monkeys to man etc.
Just in the minds of sinful mankind it exists.

It is sad to see how Gods ppl have compromised biblical truth of a world created vegetarian, free fromdeath and decay, apx. 6,000 years ago with a false teaching like evolutionism, and compromise with immmorality too Sad
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2019 10:37 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
Where did you get your education? Trump u?
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vikorr
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2019 12:35 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
But you actually believe in micro evolution by the sound of it.

Micro evolution is of course, proven fact...but even if you hadn't bothered looking at it for yourself, and relied on the bible for your 'facts', the bible itself supports such, through implication of the story of Noah, and what we have now (take dogs for example, from the two that Noah took on the Ark, we now have...)
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2019 02:36 am
I was raised Catholic and attended Catholic schools. We were taught evolution because the nuns and brothers were well educated and could separate Faith from scientific fact. For us back in the early 60's it wasn't a problem.....
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2019 05:45 am
@glitterbag,
Yes, but the Catholic Church teaches Many UNbiblical things. (Evolution is just one of them).
The Catholic Church is much like Mormonism, jehovah witnesses etc.

Just google: Catholicism is not biblical ....and read up Wink
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2019 05:48 am
@vikorr,
Yes, creation has the ability to minorly adapt within the created kinds of the Genesis account, but each kind like the dog and cat kind have Major genetic barriers.
This is why evolutionism is a great deception and false teaching....it incorporates some scientific Truth followed by misinformation.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2019 05:55 am
@glitterbag,
Here’s an Obvious unbiblical teaching, and a major problem for anyone promoting evolution as biblical:

Genesis 1:29 ‘every plant for food’
https://www.biblehub.com/genesis/1-29.htm

Genesis 9:3 (after the flood) ‘every plant AND now flesh’
https://biblehub.com/genesis/9-3.htm

Isaiah 11:6 ‘God will restore creation back to gentle creatures’ Smile
https://www.biblehub.com/isaiah/11-6.htm

U see? Biblical teaching is CLEAR that it was originally vegetarian. Do not listen to the words of any Pope, but rather the word of God.
It. Is. That. Simple! Woohoo!
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laughoutlood
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2019 06:39 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
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It is sad to see how Gods ppl have compromised biblical truth of a world created vegetarian, free fromdeath and decay, apx. 6,000 years ago with a false teaching like evolutionism, and compromise with immmorality too Sad


Thank you brother Helloandgoodbye.



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