I'm sure c.i. was referring to the Czech pilsner variety....
Re Michelob's low-carb beer: It's got a taste all its own; not like any beer I've had before. Or if it is like something I've had, I've managed to erase the memory of it...
important document to be carried on your person during beer drinking:
A word about bud - for some reason, a lot of europeans who are visiting the states drink bud and (gulp) bud lite. I don't get it, but I had regukars at the bar from England and Germany who drank the swill (sorry Cic). And, I new several German tourists in Santa Fe who also drank it.
Well they probably only know it as America's best selling beer, so they figure it's good.
Maybe, but I think it's more than that. It's cheap. And also, the beer they're used to drinking is either unavailable or too expensive, here.
When i visit mexico and meet mexican girls (not other americans on vacations) they always order american beers like bud and miller. Here in the US all the girls drink mexican beer(if they do beer).
I've also heard that young people in UK pubs are ordering Bud and Rolling Rock. Sad, but true.
Why is it that the stuff people like about about the US are our trashiest products? Weak beer, McDonalds, Britney Spears, Arnold movies...
D'art
Michelob Ultra its called here. I bought it because of the low carb. Drank some last night and I'm not surprised you forgot the taste, it tastes of nothing.
Bud and Rolling Rock
Its true young people drink this stuff here. Its up to them. The beer is nothing special, it's just heavily marketed.
Years ago I drank Budweiser at Mildenhall airbase in Suffolk. (And Schlitz I think it was called). Anyway I thought it was quite nice. And it was American beer flown in from the States. Later I bought some in England, only to read on the label that it was brewed "under license" in the UK.
i.e. from English water hops barley yeast dead rats and whatever else goes into it.
on the neck of the bottle it said "The Genuine American beer". I wrote to them and threatened to sue. Got absolutely no where of course, but I notice they don't use that advertising line anymore.
Its the same with most foreign sounding beers here, if you look closely you find its brewed locally (makes economic sense of course).
We tend to drink imported German beer brewed under their purity laws.
Having said that there's been an explosive revival of small scale breweries and local beers in England in recent years, some of it drinkable.
The problem is that cask conditioned beer needs looking after. And pubs dont want to employ bar staff who care about beer, they want staff who shift the stuff as quickly as possible.
I used to drink round an old fashioned pub where the beer was tapped straight from the barrel. No pipes, no gas. And the landlord changed barrel right in front of the customers so you knew there was no opportunity to water it down or tamper with it in any way. It was only Courage bitter (big brewery) but because the beer was treated properly it was absolutely first class, and seemed to be half as strong again as the same beer sold in other pubs.
When I was in and around London about 15 years ago, Rolling Rock was the beer that everyone associated with the United States. Budweiser (America) was not well known, and in fact when one in my group asked for a "Budweiser" at a pub, she received a bottle of Czech Budweiser.
Steve, thanks for the update on the UK situation. In 1985, my bro and traveled there and we happened upon a CAMRA festival in Cambridge. Cask ale from about 50-60 small breweries. We thought we'd died and gone straight to heaven...
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:I used to drink round an old fashioned pub where the beer was tapped straight from the barrel. No pipes, no gas. And the landlord changed barrel right in front of the customers so you knew there was no opportunity to water it down or tamper with it in any way. It was only Courage bitter (big brewery) but because the beer was treated properly it was absolutely first class, and seemed to be half as strong again as the same beer sold in other pubs.
Is the place still around? That would be reason enough for me to visit London. There are bars in Chicago that offer some amazing selections of beer, but nothing in the realm of offering freshly tapped barrels.
I heard of a place in NYC that has only two beers, I think tapped from barrells. And they kick you out if you aren't drinking.
I have a hunch I know what place that is, Slappy: McSorley's in Greenwich Village. I haven't been there, but I hear the place is quite old, if you're into that sort of thing. Beer is not so hot, though, and they have lots of attitude about it...
Well now I have a confession to make. I don't actually live in London, but near, and as 99% of people know where London is, virtually no one (except Walter Hinteler, because he knows everything) knows the place I do actually live, so I just say London.
And yes the place I used to drink is still there. Its called the Rising Sun at High Wych near Sawbridgeworth Hertfordshire
And courtesy of Royal Mail, correct address is
The Rising Sun
High Wych
SAWBRIDGEWORTH
CM21 0HZ
It used to be called Sid's. People would get of the train at the nearest railway station and just ask for Sid's...no need for further directions.
Sid has passed onto that great beer festival in the sky now, but the place is run by his nephew Steve (no relation, mores the pity)
See ya
Just got instructions to go get some beer. Probably Becks.
bought Lowenbrau brewed in Munich
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:We tend to drink imported German beer brewed under their purity laws.
Which reminds me that Mrs. Steve stopped the complete production of a brewery once ... :wink:
yes she did
its called "teachers glare"
Did they ever get it going again?
Normally the Glare is pretty terminal.
They did. Especially regarding beer, we Westphalians are very consistent, and against teacher attacks quite immun. :wink: