Civil Liberties & Muslim Americans & War on Terror

Internment Camps in Australia during World War Two

Maybe you knew that internment happened in America, but did you know that ...?

...during World War Two, 25,720 people were placed in camps in Australia: some were POW's from abroad, some were internees from Allied territories and others were Australian citizens. Those Australian citizens, around 7,000 in all, were interned for no other reason than that they were seen as a threat to national security. Due to a combination of nationality and occupation, they were taken from family, friends and society to around 20 isolated camps in Victoria, South Australia, New South Wales and Western Australia. These people were in some senses in the wrong place at the wrong time, due to circumstances beyond their control. And it was all done lawfully, under the Aliens Registration Act 1939 and National Security (Aliens Control) Regulations 1939. It is not widely known that this occurred in our own backyard...

A painting my father did when he was interned..

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Your comparison to these camps is adolesent at best. There is NO CORRELATION as to the treatment of any legal and even illegal alien in the US who is a Muslim.

However, I would not mind seeing illegal alliens locked up as such. Not because they are muslims, because they are criminals.

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woiyo wrote:

All I know is that so far, all the terrorists are Muslims. While not ALL Muslims are terrorists, I and most Americans, will keep an eye out for any "stange goings-on" by any Muslim.

That's not bigotry or hatred. It's called PROFILING and common sense.

All the terrorists are not muslim. All the terrorists we've read about lately might be, but that's a little bit different.

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"All the terrorists are not muslim. All the terrorists we've read about lately might be, but that's a little bit different. "

Really? Show me why you make that statement. (Do not bring up domestic criminals as that is not what we are discussing)

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woiyo wrote:

Your comparison to these camps is adolesent at best.

However, I would not mind seeing illegal alliens locked up as such. Not because they are muslims, because they are criminals.

Your statement would carry more weight if you spelled like an adult.
You rose to the bait.
It's a small step from what you espouse to the incarceration of a whole generation of Muslims in our country

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Basque separatists, IRA, narco-terrorists in south and central America.

Those are just contemporary examples, I'm sure I can come up with more if I dig in history a bit. But haven't we talked about this before, woiyo?

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panzade wrote:

woiyo wrote:
Your comparison to these camps is adolesent at best.

However, I would not mind seeing illegal alliens locked up as such. Not because they are muslims, because they are criminals.

Your statement would carry more weight if you spelled like an adult.
You rose to the bait.
It's a small step from what you espouse to the incarceration of a whole generation of Muslims in our country

Yea right whatever Rolling Eyes

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Rolling eyes...the response of the speechless

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FreeDuck wrote:

Basque separatists, IRA, narco-terrorists in south and central America.

Those are just contemporary examples, I'm sure I can come up with more if I dig in history a bit. But haven't we talked about this before, woiyo?

Not really Duck. Yet you seem have included "terrorists" who are not the focus of debate.

The IRA pose no threat to US security.

The focus on the media created "war on terrorism" as it relates to those who attacked our nation on 9-11.

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panzade wrote:

Rolling eyes...the response of the speechless

No, just my reaction to another useless statement made by you. I imagine you picked that "empty blank black" box to represent what thoughts run between your ears.

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woiyo wrote:

FreeDuck wrote:
Basque separatists, IRA, narco-terrorists in south and central America.

Those are just contemporary examples, I'm sure I can come up with more if I dig in history a bit. But haven't we talked about this before, woiyo?

Not really Duck. Yet you seem have included "terrorists" who are not the focus of debate.

The IRA pose no threat to US security.

The focus on the media created "war on terrorism" as it relates to those who attacked our nation on 9-11.

You didn't specify that criteria. You said "All terrorsists are muslim" as if it were a moral indictment of the whole muslim world.

"war on terrorism" is an oxymoron.

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It's an idiotic phrase. It should have been 'war on terrorists,' but then some may wonder why we aren't actually fighting terrorists anymore.

Cycloptichorn

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FreeDuck wrote:

woiyo wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
Basque separatists, IRA, narco-terrorists in south and central America.

Those are just contemporary examples, I'm sure I can come up with more if I dig in history a bit. But haven't we talked about this before, woiyo?

Not really Duck. Yet you seem have included "terrorists" who are not the focus of debate.

The IRA pose no threat to US security.

The focus on the media created "war on terrorism" as it relates to those who attacked our nation on 9-11.

You didn't specify that criteria. You said "All terrorsists are muslim" as if it were a moral indictment of the whole muslim world.

"war on terrorism" is an oxymoron.

You know EXACTLY what we are talking about.

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woiyo,

Admit it; your blanket statement that all terrorists are Muslim is flat wrong.

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DrewDad wrote:

woiyo,

Admit it; your blanket statement that all terrorists are Muslim is flat wrong.

Another smart a$$.

Rolling Eyes

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FreeDuck wrote:

Basque separatists, IRA, narco-terrorists in south and central America.

Those are just contemporary examples, I'm sure I can come up with more if I dig in history a bit. But haven't we talked about this before, woiyo?

Do any of those groups export terrorism to different countries with the same aim? To destroy the current govt and install a Muslim controlled one. It is happening all over the world in places like the Philippines and Malaysia. What do these countries have to do with the US and Israel isn't that why the terrorists don't like us?

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Well, the Italian Mafia exported their criminal syndicate to the US.

The Russian Mafia seems to be doing the same.

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Baldimo wrote:

FreeDuck wrote:
Basque separatists, IRA, narco-terrorists in south and central America.

Those are just contemporary examples, I'm sure I can come up with more if I dig in history a bit. But haven't we talked about this before, woiyo?

Do any of those groups export terrorism to different countries with the same aim? To destroy the current govt and install a Muslim controlled one. It is happening all over the world in places like the Philippines and Malaysia. What do these countries have to do with the US and Israel isn't that why the terrorists don't like us?

That's a lot of unrelated questions all balled up into one. Woiyo said all terrorsts were muslims. Obviously he meant to qualify that remark to tailor it to the particular terrorist movement that we are supposedly fighting in our war against war. If you wish to call it a war against islamic fascism, I might be on your side.

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DrewDad wrote:

Well, the Italian Mafia exported their criminal syndicate to the US.

The Russian Mafia seems to be doing the same.

Comparing the mafia to terrorists is intellectual dishonesty.

There is a difference between criminal syndicates and terrorism. These syndicates don't seek to harm the US as much as they are after money and control of the areas where they live. At least form all accounts the Italian mafia were at least proud to be Americans and didn't want to see any harm to the country they love. I don't know much about the Russian mafia so I don't know if they feel that way or not.

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That's a lot of unrelated questions all balled up into one. Woiyo said all terrorsts were muslims. Obviously he meant to qualify that remark to tailor it to the particular terrorist movement that we are supposedly fighting in our war against war. If you wish to call it a war against islamic fascism, I might be on your side.

You're mincing words and playing with semantics.

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It looks like that somebody has not yet realized how the terrorist network works. They use civil rights ande freedoms in order to destroy them. They know that there always is a minority which will never support restrictions on these rights. Just read Michael Moore´s Hey Dude, where is my country? . It is a good example of the kind of people I am talking about. He says that Bush governemente has created a climate of paranoia, but Moore is actually the big paranoic- according to his book, the US looks like Chile in the 70,s . But it is not true!!

In fact, I think that the real mistake is try to ensure civil liberties at the cost of US security. Do not pay attention to fools like Moore.

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