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The German Election of Chancellor 2017

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jan, 2025 08:11 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
... an incredible, clear-eyed history of recent German affairs by Glenn Diesen.
This is definitely not 'history' as a historiography but an opinion in the eyes of 'Russia in Global Affairs' (verbatim = he wrote similar already in a 2019-issue).
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jan, 2025 08:13 am
Btw, Diesen mentions Herder, who characterizes German society ‘das volk’ in such a lovely way—and Walter accuses him of perverting it with some Nazi interpretation with no evidence whatsoever.

Once again, the template:

Studiously ignore the content. Your life depends on it!
Attack the messenger / publisher with ad hominems, not engagement or legitimate argument.
Slur. Dismiss.

It’s fear-based.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jan, 2025 08:33 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Diesen mentions Herder, who characterizes German society ‘das volk’ in such a lovely way—and Walter accuses him of perverting it with some Nazi interpretation with no evidence whatsoever.
Diesen quoted Herder's Philosophie der Geschichte der Menschheit (Ideas for the Philosophy of the History of Mankind).

Herder's idea of viewing the dazzling diversity of peoples and cultures as expressions of a world spirit unfolding in its own way was influential throughout Europe.

He emphasised regional customs and cultural manifestations and contrasted them with the emotional and social rootlessness of a universalistic concept of society and culture. He distinguished between the state as a man-made entity and the people ["Volk"], to whom he attributed a metaphysical genesis through their own language. In his ‘Ideas on the Philosophy of the History of Mankind’, which traces far back into early world history, he states: ‘In this respect, the entire history of nations ["Völker"] becomes for us a school of the race to achieve the most beautiful crown of humanity and human dignity.’


NB: Volk, plural Völker
1. (collective) people, nation, folk, tribe, race (group united by culture, history, descent, and/or language)
2. people, population, citizens
3. common people, the lower classes, the working classes
4. folk, crowd (large group of people gathered somewhere)
5. (biology) herd, covey, swarm, colony; chiefly of insects
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jan, 2025 09:03 am
@Lash,
Herder assumed that nations were entities with a specific language and cultural properties. But history fulfilled neither his preferences nor his expectations. Herder's unpolitical nations did and do often develop nationalist movements.

When we had finished Herder at school (nearly 60 years ago, in philosophy classes), I'd not thought that I would have to deal with him later again, namely when studying history at university.

But then I realised that he was speaking from my soul, I have always followed his guiding principle.
Herder's philosophy was of a deeply subjective turn, stressing influence by physical and historical circumstance upon human development, stressing that "one must go into the age, into the region, into the whole history, and feel one's way into everything".

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jan, 2025 11:41 am
Cross post with the "The Ballad of Twitter and that Billionaire Bumpkin, Elon Musk" thread

Four weeks before the German parliamentary elections, tech billionaire Elon Musk has once again joined the German election campaign on a big stage and campaigned for the AfD. At the party's official campaign kick-off in Halle (Saale), the Trump adviser and Tesla boss was switched on live from the USA at the beginning of party leader Alice Weidel's speech.

In a video message, Musk reaffirmed his support for the AfD party. ‘It is very important that people in Germany are proud to be German,’ said Musk via livestream. ‘German culture’ goes back “thousands of years”. Even the Roman Emperor Julius Caesar was ‘impressed’ by the fighting spirit of the Germanic tribes, Musk continued.

‘Fight for a great future for Germany,’ said Musk to the cheers of around 4,500 AfD supporters in the exhibition hall. The entrepreneur lamented that there was ‘too much focus on past guilt’ and that this had to be left behind. Children should not be guilty for the sins of their great-grandparents, he said and called for optimism.

The AfD has Musk's full support and - he believes - also the support of the Trump government. The current German government is obviously not interested in ‘the health and well-being of the German people’. Instead, ‘the government is aggressively suppressing freedom of expression’. The AfD must therefore ‘fight, fight, fight’, especially for ‘more self-determination for Germany and for the countries in Europe and less from Brussels’.

Translation of a SPIEGEL report
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2025 07:34 am
German Election Campaign Flooded with Fake News and Videos
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The German election campaign has become a magnet for fake news and AI-generated propaganda as foreign actors seek to boost the right wing. The attacks are becoming more sophisticated, and are no longer coming just from Russia, but from the U.S. as well.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz allegedly has one. So, too, does Green Party co-chair Franziska Brantner. A multi-million-dollar villa in California.

Scholz, according to the narrative, owns a choice estate in the Hollywood Hills – or did, at least, until it was burned down in the fires. That, at least, was the claim espoused by a recent video, complete with aerial shots of a spectacular mansion.

Many videos currently circulating on social media channels, particularly TikTok, are reinforcing a popular cliché: namely that those at the top earn millions and betray the interests of ordinary people.

The problem, though, is that the videos are complete and utter fabrications.

Russian-Produced Fakes
On Elon Musk’s channel X, a clip is circulating showing a uniformed police officer who introduces himself as Cameron. He says he is happy he works in the United Kingdom and not in Germany. According to information received by his agency, he says, a series of major terrorist attacks are being prepared in Germany during the country’s snap parliamentary elections in February. "Share this video with your friends and family," he says.

This video, too, is a fake, likely produced in Russia. The creators took clips from real videos and, as the activists from the fake-news awareness group Antibot4Navalny learned, then used artificial intelligence to distort the voices.

The internet is currently full of countless other manipulations, all with a single goal: to trigger chaos and uncertainty ahead of German elections in an effort to strengthen the political fringes.

There have likely never before been so many and such extensive external attempts to influence a German parliamentary election. Previous elections, to be sure, have also seen their fair share of fake, Russian-controlled social media accounts spreading lies and half-truths. Since then, though, technology has become far more sophisticated. Artificial intelligence tools are making it easier and easier to produce fake videos and put false words into the mouths of politicians.

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2025 11:33 am
Angela Merkel rebukes successor for alliance with far-right AfD on anti-immigration motion
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Former German chancellor Angela Merkel has criticised Friedrich Merz, her successor as leader of the country’s conservatives, for pushing through proposals on migration and asylum with the backing of the far-right AfD.

In a rare intervention in public affairs since stepping down from politics in December 2021, Merkel said that Merz, who is tipped to become Germany’s next chancellor, had in effect performed a U-turn.

On her website, she wrote that Merz, head of the centre-right CDU/CSU alliance, had said in a speech last November that he was against passing policies with the support of the generally shunned AfD, even it was by “accident”.

She said she stood by the longstanding conviction that there should never be any association between the mainstream parties and the AfD.

“I think it is wrong to no longer feel bound to this proposal, thereby allowing a majority with the votes of the AfD in a vote in the German Bundestag for the first time on 29 January 2025,” she added.

Wednesday’s vote was unprecedented. For the first time the AfD, second in polls ahead of the election on 23 February, was instrumental in helping a mainstream party towards a parliamentary majority. The pro-business FDP also contributed to the motion’s success.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 01:10 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The non-binding motion to restrict immigration has sparked outrage after citizens said the conservative CDU/CSU broke a promise not to work with the far-right AfD.

Mass protests after far-right AfD helps CDU/CSU
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 11:35 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The German Bundestag voted against the "Influx Limitation Law" after an emotional debate. The bill was proposed by the conservative CDU/CSU bloc, who had been (accused of) cooperating with the far-right AfD party.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 2 Feb, 2025 01:08 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Massive protests have erupted across Germany in the wake of two contentious parliamentary votes on immigration, with marchers venting anger at the conservative bloc for breaking the taboo on collaborating with the far-right AfD. DW
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 2 Feb, 2025 01:24 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
https://i.imgur.com/8vFFt00l.png
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Tens of thousands of people marched in Germany on Sunday to protest against the decision by the centre-right leader – and frontrunner in a looming election – to send to parliament proposals for tough migration rules that received the backing of a far-right party.

Angry protesters in Berlin, Cologne, Hamburg, Leipzig and Munich said that Friedrich Merz and his Christian Democrats (CDU) broke Germany’s unwritten post-Nazi promise by all democratic parties to never pass any rule or resolution in parliament with the support of far-right, nationalist parties such as Alternative für Deutschland (AfD).

Police estimated that 160,000 people attended a rally in Berlin. Organisers put the turnout at 200,000.

Hundreds of protesters temporarily blocked offices of the CDU in different cities. In Cologne, people protested on 350 boats on the Rhine, the German news agency dpa reported. The boats lined up in front of the city’s skyline with protesters holding banners with slogans such as “No racism” and “For democracy and diversity”.
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The Guardian
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 2 Feb, 2025 10:41 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Berlin police said on Sunday that at least 160,000 people attended a rally in the German capital to protest the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) leaning on the support of the far-right AfD in parliament earlier this week.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 8 Feb, 2025 11:16 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Around 250,000 people protested in Munich against the shift to the right - the organisers expected 75,000 participants.
There were also demonstrations in favour of democracy in other cities. According to the police, 24,000 people took to the streets in Hanover, officials counted 25,000 in Bremen, demonstrators gathered again in Hamburg, and protest marches were also planned in Frankfurt am Main, Leipzig, Nuremberg, Saarbrücken, Stuttgart and countless smaller cities.
People had already protested in many cities last weekend. The reason for this was a motion to tighten migration policy in the Bundestag tabled by the CDU/CSU, which received a majority with votes from the AfD, among others.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 8 Feb, 2025 12:42 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Would be chancellor Friederich Merz breaks post-war convention of no political deals with far right.

Merz’s gamble: Germany’s centre-right leader splits voters by flirting with hardline AfD
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2025 05:39 am
@Walter Hinteler,

Alice Weidel, the chancellor candidate for the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), is in the Hungarian capital to meet Prime Minister Viktor Orban.

The two were to hold talks at Orban's official residence in the former Carmelite monastery in Budapest Castle. According to the Hungarian government, the pair were set to discuss the "European migration crisis."

The two politicians share a number of views, including a hardline stance on immigration and a desire to rebuild relations with Russia.

The AfD has seen its popularity grow in recent years and it's currently polling in second place ahead of Germany's federal elections, scheduled for February 23.

Today's visit marks the first time Orban has hosted a politician from the far-right German party.

The Hungarian leader has sought to bring together far-right and right-wing forces in the European Parliament as part of the Patriots for Europe group he helped launch last year.

The group does not currently have a German party as a member.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2025 08:12 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Here's a look at Germany's political parties — CDU, CSU, SPD, FDP, Left Party, Greens, AfD, BSW — who they are and what they want.

A guide to Germany's political parties
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