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The German Election of Chancellor 2017

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 12:47 am
Summary of the most recent polls:

The opposition CDU/Christian Social Union (CSU) conservative alliance is clearly leading the polls, which were last updated before the government’s collapse, with 30-34%. Behind them is the AfD (16-19%).

The governing parties’ poll ratings have all plummeted from 2021 levels. Scholz’s SPD is on 14-18%, while the Greens are on 9-12% and the FDP just 3-5%. To get into parliament a party needs at least 5% of the vote and this is seen as one of the reasons that Lindner decided to upend the coalition. He is expected to present his party as a future potential partner for the CDU/CSU.

The BSW, which recently made a significant impact in three state elections, is on 6-9% and is seen, albeit with misgivings, as a potential coalition partner by all the main parties.

All these parties have excluded the possibility of forming a coalition government with the AfD (as of now that is).
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 12:05 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Just wishing Europe well during this frightening time.
I expect my country to face similar problems soon—and I’m just publishing here that these problems are being orchestrated by specific oligarchs.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 9 Nov, 2024 08:23 am
The collapse of Germany’s government will delight Trump – and his European friends (Opinion)
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The German dream of centrist, stable government has been dashed by geopolitical forces and the cult of balanced budgets

Wednesday 6 November was a seismic day in the politics of the west. On one side of the Atlantic, it was confirmed in the early hours of the morning that the hard-right nationalist Donald Trump had been elected president of the US; on the other side, the government running Europe’s largest economy – Germany’s traffic-light coalition of social democrats, market liberals and greens – collapsed. It could hardly have come at a worse time.

The breakdown of the feuding Berlin alliance will leave a political vacuum in Germany for months, just when the EU needs decisive leadership. Instead, the country faces months of introspective electioneering, followed by protracted coalition negotiations, with investment and public spending on hold.

Germany is already in its second year of recession. Its economic model is broken because of the end of cheap Russian gas and declining exports to China, which is increasingly an industrial competitor. Its mighty car industry is shedding jobs and shuttering factories as orders slump. The government even revived border checks within the European Schengen zone in a panicked reaction after a migrant stabbed three people to death.

Populist, Eurosceptic anti-immigration parties of the extreme right and left – opposed to support for Ukraine – are gaining ground, making the formation of stable national and regional governments increasingly difficult. Between them, the far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) and a new leftist insurgent movement led by the former communist Sahra Wagenknecht (BSW) are polling at about 25% of the national vote. Germany is succumbing to the “Dutch disease” – the collapse of big-tent mainstream parties and the fragmentation of the political spectrum that is debilitating many European democracies.

Sociologically, there are echoes of what drove Trump’s comeback. Working-class voters, particularly young white men, are turning to the extremes in frustration at falling living standards, stagnant wages, precarious jobs and anti-refugee resentment.

The coalition broke up ostensibly over economic policy. The finance minister, Christian Lindner, leader of the liberal, pro-business Free Democrats (FDP), rejected calls from the Social Democrats (SPD) and Greens to loosen Germany’s rigid constitutional “debt brake” and allow more spending on support for Ukraine and reviving the economy. Lindner demanded tax cuts and sharp reductions in welfare spending instead (even though public debt is lower than in any other G7 economy). That prompted the SPD chancellor, Olaf Scholz, to fire him rather than wait for the FDP to walk out.

In reality, Lindner wanted out because his party is fighting for survival, polling well below the 5% threshold needed to keep seats in the Bundestag, and has fallen out of many regional parliaments.

Scholz is now limping on with a minority SPD-Greens government and plans to seek a confidence vote on 15 January, which he is bound to lose – setting the stage for early elections in March. The opposition Christian Democrats (CDU/CSU) are demanding that he call an immediate confidence vote to bring the election forward, but they do not have enough votes to elect an alternative chancellor.

The German crisis comes at a time when France, its key partner in European leadership, is hamstrung by its own political turmoil. President Emmanuel Macron is increasingly a lame duck after his bungled dissolution of parliament in June left him cohabiting with a minority centre-right government whose survival is at the mercy of Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Rally.

This is all bad news for anyone expecting decisive European leadership as Trump takes office next year, and a windfall for opponents of closer European integration, led by the illiberal Hungarian prime minister, Viktor Orbán.

Opinion polls taken before the coalition imploded put Friedrich Merz’s CDU/CSU on about 33%, with the far-right AfD in second place on about 18%, the SPD on 15%, the Greens on 10%, BSW on 8%, and the FDP between 3 and 4%. Since no mainstream party is willing to consider a coalition with AfD, the only plausible governing combination would be a “Grand Coalition” of CDU/CSU and SPD for the fourth time since 2005, but even that alliance might barely have a parliamentary majority and need a third partner. Even if the FDP managed to jump the 5% hurdle, the CDU/CSU and FDP would not have enough seats to form a centre-right coalition.

Merz strongly supports increased military assistance to Ukraine and has criticised the “traffic light” government for holding back supplies of Leopard 2 tanks and more recently Taurus long-range missiles. However, it is not clear that he would be willing to suspend the debt brake and increase government borrowing to pay for more aid to Kyiv, or to invest more in Germany’s creaking public infrastructure or the green transition. He has also pulled the conservatives to the right on issues such as migration and energy policy since the days of the centrist chancellor Angela Merkel, and he may try to go back on the outgoing government’s ambitious net zero targets.

The collapse of the “traffic light” coalition is a disillusionment for those who believed that a progressive alliance was possible between pro-market forces, supporters of a bold green energy transition and advocates of social justice. The external hammer blows of the Covid-19 pandemic, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and falling Chinese demand for German imports helped dash the German dream.

But German fiscal fetishism also played a central role in dooming Scholz’s government to failure. The centre-left went along for far too long with the conservatives and the FDP in clinging to the cult of balanced budgets and the debt brake. As a result, public borrowing remained taboo and investment in the country’s crumbling infrastructure has been woefully insufficient.

Whether a new conservative-led coalition would be willing or able to wriggle out of this stifling fiscal straitjacket is far from clear. If not, the German economy will die in good health, and Europe will be dragged down with it.


georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 9 Nov, 2024 01:59 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I believe the real irony here is that Germany has in real fact long needed more "decisive leadership" than it has seen. Indeed the lack of it is the main cause for the current situation you have described.
roger
 
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Reply Sat 9 Nov, 2024 07:31 pm
I begin to wonder if anyone can say "X" without also saying "formerly known as Twitter".
cherrie
 
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Reply Sat 9 Nov, 2024 07:56 pm
@roger,
Yes, it seems a bit pointless to change the name but then keep saying the original name. Why bother?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2024 12:29 am
@georgeob1,
I agree insofar as certainly was - in this government - the origin of everything that followed.
In my opinion, it would not have had to happen if Scholz had exhausted his constitutional possibilities: the chancellor's or directive competence. But Scholz has always been known as a "reserved Hanseatic" person .
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2024 03:31 am
Germany's Bundestag has passed a controversial motion equating criticism of Israel with antisemitism. Dozens of Jewish academics opposed the resolution, saying it will endanger Jewish Germans by associating them with the actions of the Israeli government.

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Very sad indicator for German personal autonomy.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2024 03:54 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Germany's Bundestag has passed a controversial motion equating criticism of Israel with antisemitism.

‘Never again is now - protecting, preserving and strengthening Jewish life in Germany’ is the title of the resolution introduced by the CDU/CSU, SPD, Greens and FDP and adopted by the Bundestag the morning after the break-up of the traffic light coalition.

The resolution's full text [in German] here.

The DW-report Germany passes controversial antisemitism resolution gives an excellent summary with many links.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2024 03:55 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Very sad indicator for German personal autonomy.
Mind to explain that?
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2024 06:16 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Use your context clues.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2024 06:21 am
@Lash,
I'm grateful for this kind advice, that will keep my personal autonomy.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2024 07:44 am
re-election course: former Finance Minister Lindner does not want to work with the SPD and Greens again under any circumstances. Not even under a chancellor other than Olaf Scholz. He accuses the former partners of negligent handling of the Basic Law.
Lindner did not want to make any further statements on the coalition, as there would first have to be an election programme.


SPD parliamentary group leader Rolf Mützenich has signalled a willingness to accommodate the CDU/CSU. He says that an earlier re-election than previously envisaged could be discussed - as a package with projects that the Scholz government still wants to push through.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2024 08:40 am
My favorite news guys with Prof Jeffery Sacks this morning.
Germany in Freefall: Can Germany survive its midlife crisis?
Their details are helpful to understand how this is happening.
The Duran:
https://youtu.be/67VxEXlq3Jc?si=NQTelFfLMy--Nwwe
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2024 12:46 pm
The Guardian view on Germany’s collapsed coalition: politics in the shadow of Donald Trump
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A snap election triggered by Olaf Scholz will be crucial in shaping Europe’s response to last week’s events in the US

Spying a possible silver lining to events in the US, some commentators have speculated that the re-election of Donald Trump may at least concentrate minds among mainstream European leaders. Faced with a rapidly emerging new world order, and with homegrown far-right movements making the political weather, their response has at times appeared sluggish and unconvincing. Perhaps the shock of Trump 2.0 will finally convey the fierce urgency of now.

The sudden collapse of Germany’s fractious SPD‑led coalition government, as the US election verdict became clear, certainly points to a quickening of the political tempo. Olaf Scholz is a famously cautious, meticulous politician, with a reputation for equivocating. Not last week. In summarily sacking his finance minister, Christian Lindner, and triggering the exit of the Free Democratic party (FDP) from the government, Chancellor Scholz launched a sequence of events that will lead to snap elections in the spring, or even earlier.

Mr Scholz’s patience finally ran out during vital budget negotiations, when Mr Lindner – who leads the economically liberal FDP – once more made clear his determination to block SPD and Green-backed spending aimed at reviving Germany’s moribund economy and supporting Ukraine. At one level this could be viewed as futile manoeuvring aboard a sinking electoral ship as the iceberg looms. Mr Scholz’s disunited coalition has become deeply unpopular. Languishing at below 5% in the polls, the FDP may well have quit before a federal election due in September anyway.

But the ramifications of last week’s drama transcend the internal politics of the coalition. The immediate downside is obvious and significant. Germany – like France, following Emmanuel Macron’s midsummer miscalculations – will now endure a period of instability under a weak minority government. This is less than ideal as Mr Trump pledges to reset western policy on Ukraine and bully the European Union over trade. At a crucial moment, the fabled Franco-German “engine” of European integration and unity is spluttering and wheezing.

In a multipolar world where old free-trade orthodoxies are crumbling, Mr Scholz’s gamble also marks a fork in the road for a country that has remained loyal to economic nostrums which look increasingly dated. The fallout from the war in Russia, China’s emergence as a menacing competitor and the prospect of a more protectionist America pose an existential threat to Germany’s crisis-torn industrial economy. Mr Scholz’s Green deputy, Robert Habeck, has called for a debt-financed investment fund to kickstart recovery and cushion the impact of insecure times on blue-collar voters.

Mr Lindner instead advocated reductions in welfare benefits, tax cuts and an easing off on national climate targets to balance the budget. As the finance minister of the EU’s biggest, most powerful economy, he has also set the policy tone in Brussels, where Germany’s opposition to the idea of common EU borrowing mechanisms has hobbled the response to challenges such as investing in the green deal.

Along with the fate of Ukraine’s resistance to Vladimir Putin, and the rise of the far right, the future of Germany and Europe’s economic model will be a key theme in the new age of Trump. Historically, Berlin’s fiscal caution has dominated this debate, but different times demand a different approach. Whether an unexpected spring election in Germany can deliver one, given Mr Scholz’s standing in the polls, is another matter.


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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2024 11:10 pm
Germany's Scholz ready to hold confidence vote this year
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The move from the German chancellor would potentially pave the way for snap elections. Scholz also explained how the coalition only remained together due to his "repeated efforts to achieve cooperation and compromise."
"GroKo" (grand coalition), I can hear you.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2024 08:30 am
According to SPIEGEL, Federal President Frank-Walter Steinmeier will not be travelling to Saudi Arabia next Monday, contrary to his plans.
Since the break-up of the coalition, the head of state has been endeavouring to mediate between the parties in the Bundestag and is therefore holding talks with their leading players. In order to fulfil this task, Steinmeier reportedly considers his presence in Berlin next week to be necessary.

The CDU/CSU has been calling for it incessantly, but now it is clear: Chancellor Olaf Scholz (SPD) will not be asking for a vote of confidence this Wednesday. (The next session of the Bundestag is scheduled for Wednesday with a government statement; Scholz had already said on Sunday on the first programme that he would call a vote of confidence if the parliamentary group leaders of the SPD and CDU/CSU had agreed on a date).
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2024 07:34 am
Germany's governing coalition had long been characterized by perpetual bickering and very little progress. Ultimately, Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Finance Minister Christian Lindner found it impossible to get along.

The End of the German Government: How Chancellor Olaf Scholz Brought His Coalition to an End
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2024 09:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Leaders of the parliamentary parties of Chancellor Olaf Scholz's Social Democrats and opposition Christian Democrats have suggested February 23, 2025, as a date for snap elections. (That would collide with school holidays in two states.)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2024 12:46 pm
Federal President Steinmeier has approved the timetable of the coalition and CDU/CSU parliamentary groups for new elections to the Bundestag. According to ‘today's assessment’, Steinmeier considers ‘23 February 2025 to be a realistic date for new elections’, the Office of the Federal President explained on Tuesday evening following a joint meeting between the Head of State and CDU leader Merz, SPD parliamentary group leader Mützenich and Green parliamentary group leaders Britta Haßelmann and Katharina Dröge.

President approves German early election proposal
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