Is debate possible between ignoramuses?How is it possible

Isn't that romantic, Lola?

like Jane Eyre

Lola:-

Are you impugning my testosterone count?

And my integrity?

never

I thought you liked the Bronte sisters. Real men don't like romance? I have lots of evidence to the contrary on that one.

Lola:-

Emily is my darling.

There was a front page headline here a year or two back saying "ROMANCE IS RAPE".

What do you make of that?

to that I say, rape me please......

What could that possibly mean, romance is rape? What was the point of the article?

It was a feminist research project from one of our semi-traditional universities (beta minus).They produced a report and the newspaper being under the control of feminists jumped all over it.Something to do with shiny objects and sweetmeats and perfumery having a hypnotic effect on certain ladies.As you probably know hypnosis is grounds for a rape charge.They were dead serious.

There were five miners killed the same day but that item was relegated to an inside page about half way down.

*I'll be safely in my library in a couple of hours.

I have no sympathy with silly stuff like that....women are as good as men in protecting themselves against the evils of perfume and romance....what about men, is hypnosis grounds for a rape charge with them? Such "feminist" ideas are not truly feminist at all........what a put down to women. Women like this make their own trouble. Some of us are more into victimhood than others. If a woman wants to prevent (date) rape, she should be careful where she goes and with whom, otherwise she must learn from her experience. The hard way is sometimes the only way. Once learned, lessons should be remembered. Men too should watch where they go in order to prevent being mugged. That's my take on it. What's yours?

Fits me like a glove Lola.Perfect.

Were you aware Lola, all the Jane Eyre, Wuthering Heights, Bronte, Heathcliffe and other such titles and names quoted by friend Spendius are set in Yorkshire. No wonder they become such drab and dreary topics.

I know nothing of Yorkshire. Tell me all about it......I should know about these things. What are international internet friends for if not to inform in a way no others I know can? So tell........

The county is absolute naff, Lola, it was almost washed away last night in a thunderstorm and extremely heavy rain. It made me think of Spendius, I had vision of the old goat bobbing up and down in the water, clutching his plastic 2 litre bottle of Woodpecker's finest, his beard encrusted with river lice and he going first class into the north sea. Alas, he survived, he is here. Oh well another day perhaps. You could look up Peter Sutcliffe on your google Lola, a typical Yorkshireman, beard and all. You will learn all you need ever know regarding that place of ill repute..

Yuck! Mathos..........I don't like murder.

Still Peter was a bit of a handsome fellow. Too bad he was so sick.

Your A1 correct there Lola, so beware The tyke, you cannot trust them.. Tight !! They pay everything, (when they decide to) with sixpenny pieces.

Very few are aware of the beauty of garden's either. The only thing the men really get along with are fluffy white ewe's. Most of them wear wellington's as well, it helps to control the sheep of course.

The only decent thing to come out of that county is the road.

That is a blatant lie.

There's darling Emily.There's Geoff Boycott.There's enough there to match most counties in England.
And BRASS was made in Yorkshire.

I have never been to yorkshire either, however I imagine it like it is in last of the summer wine. Not that i watch that of course.

You have to laugh.

All this talk about Yorkshire.I've been there a few times myself.A pilgrimage to Emily's tomb,York races a few times,a book fair-not much else.The place looks okay.

It was all Mathos's idea based on 100% ignorance.
It just goes to show the utter futility of ignoramuses debating anything.And now Queenie imagines Yorkshire from The Last of the Summer Wine films and she doesn't even watch them.

The Last of the Summer Wine has little or nothing to do with Yorkshire.It is all loaded up with London values as one would expect.Nora Batty is portrayed as a coarse Yorkshire woman and the character comes nowhere near what that represents.

I beg to differ. Debate between ignoramuses is possible. It was socrates who said that the wise man is the man who knows he knows nothing.

I am surprised spendy, that you have such a rigid view of what truth is (although i have not read the 76 pages of argument before this). I do not believe the truth can ever be objective, and this leads me point out that if knowledge is subjective, then 'debate' (which i understand to mean a discussion about which way we interpret facts) is no different from 'arguing.'

Queenie:-

That's okay.Why not call this the arguing forum then?Does calling it a philosophy forum allow people to feel more intellectual about themselves?
If it does is that an objective truth?Is the subjectivity of others an objective truth?

The truth has to be objective to allow action to take place.From a philosophical point of view how can two people be married except by simply subjectively agreeing that they are.One has to take the traffic objectively to cross the road safely.

If the truth can never be objective how does that not lead to catatonic states?Portraits of philosophers often show a strong pensive physiognomy.They laud inaction.

Is pulling out of a debate,a common thing on here, a form of catatonia;subjectivity presumably having run out of steam.

Men of action don't take that view.

do you concider yourself a man of action then spendius?