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NC congressman Coble defends internment of Japanese American

 
 
Reply Thu 6 Feb, 2003 10:50 pm
I'm angry. This bigot, congressman Howard Coble, who heads a homeland security subcommittee said that some Japanese Americans "probably were intent on doing harm on us." He's an ignorant SOB, who doesn't understand how sensitive Japanese Americans are on the subject of our internment during WWII. I hope his political future ends up the same way as Trent Lott, another bigot. c.i.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 6 Feb, 2003 11:09 pm
Yikes.

Not just for sensitivities, but because of his position. I thought we were supposed to have learned lessons from that debacle, not re-live it.
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 6 Feb, 2003 11:22 pm
<bewildered gaping stare>

Where do these people come from?
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 6 Feb, 2003 11:27 pm
ci

It happened here in BC as well. David Suzuki's family was incarcerated. Likely Coble is using this as some sort of precedent to give justification to the present treatment of people who happen to look non-caucasian, and who thus are possible enemies. Enemies are, after all, behind many bushes.
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Asherman
 
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Reply Thu 6 Feb, 2003 11:39 pm
Cicero,

Could you provide a link to Congressman Cobel's complete remarks? Where and when were they made? What sub-committee is he chairman of? I'd like to know more about this fellow. Some Congressmen are notoriously insensitive, but this report is especially disturbing if Cobel has any real influence over policy formation. It has been said that no one ever went broke underestimating the American public, and that goes double for Congress.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 12:02 am
Hi Asherman, The information was in today's San Jose Mercury News, in The Valley section, front page. The article written by Cecilia Kang of Mercury News. It just says, "Rep. Howard Coble, R-NC, who heads a homeland security subcommittee (he's chairman of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security), made the comments Tuesday on a radio call-in program........" He also said, "We were at war," calling Japanese Americans "an endangered species." Also added, "for many of these Japanese Americans, it wasn't safe for them to be on the street." Congressman Robert Honda responded with, "If we were incarcerated for our safety, why were we inside the barbed wire fences, and why were the gun towers facing us?"

With all these bigots in the republican party, it makes me wonder why all my siblings are republicans. Sad, sad, sad..... c.i.
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pueo
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 01:17 am
here's thestory
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 07:34 am
pueo

something wrong with that link, I'm afraid.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 07:38 am
c.i.- I can understand your anger. In this climate all sorts of misanthropy will be coming out of the woodwork. Take it from where it came- There are ignoramouses everywhere, but I hate to see one on a Homeland Security subcommittee! Evil or Very Mad
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 08:13 am
Phoenix

I think this is not merely a matter of cross-sectional chance - as in, given any group of individuals, some few will be bigots. I think we might want to be alert to a growing culture of mis-trust of the people who think and look differently in the present, precisely as has happened with the Japanese.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 08:17 am
blatham- I agree. I alluded to your point, although I did not spell it out as well as you!
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 08:27 am
I suspect blatham is right on this, but hey, even a clock that's stopped is right twice a day.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 08:30 am
roger!!! My god, I just bumped into fishin on another thread, and now you here....I've missed you two to the point of weeping approximately.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 08:34 am
Oh, I've been weeping. Copiously.
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 08:38 am
c.i.
You don't have to be smart to be elected to political office all you need is stupid people to vote for you. That is a commodity in abundance in the US. A good example of that now sits at the seat of government. Someone should remind him of the sacrifices the sons of those very same incarcerated people made to give him the freedom to make those stupid statements. Isn't there a shame on you award?
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 08:40 am
au1929 wrote:
c.i.
You don't have to be smart to be elected to political office all you need is stupid people to vote for you.


Good point, au. That explains a lot.
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gezzy
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 10:12 am
What a jerk this guy is. Send him over here and I'll kick his a$$ for ya C.I.
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Asherman
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 10:29 am
Congressman Cobel may be a bigot, it certainly sounds that way. On the other hand, there seems to be a rush to judgement here on a very tenous basis. A reporter wrote an article based on what he heard, or thinks he heard, on a free-form radio talkshow. What did the Congressman actually say, and what was the context? What editorial biasis does the reporter and his paper have? My experience has been to distrust the news media, and most of the commentariate have no better credentials than my next door neighbor has in interpreting events. Was the Congressman serious, joking, or just mis-speaking? What was he responding to, and what was the response to his remark(s) at the time? Without knowing what was going on events and remarks can be easily missinterpreted, or mis-stated. I doubt it, but the Congressman's family may include persons of Japanese-American descent, and he may be more tolerant than many others. What sub-committee does Cobel chair? He may be the leader of two other maverics that are given "make work" to keep them out of the hair of more serious matters.

On the face of it Congressman Cobel seems to be an insensitive boor, and a dangerous one at that. The men hung at the Oxbow certainly seemed guilty of murder and rustling. "Twelve Angry Men" started out being utterly convinced the defendant had stabbed his father to death, and only gradually came to realize that there was more than a reasonable doubt. Slow down, get the full facts -- then hang the bastard.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 11:02 am
Asherman, You disappoint me greatly. This guy Coble is a bigot for even "thinking" what he did, no less voicing his bigotry on radio talk show. Your defense of this bigot is what scares me, because even Saddam has defenders. c.i.
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Asherman
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2003 11:11 am
Cicero,

I'm not defending Cobel, only saying that the evidence that he said or did anything objectionable is pretty thin. Less evidence he's as bad a guy as Saddam. Probably Cobel is everything he's accused of, but to condemn a person on the basis of heresay in one newspaper isn't enough to launch a hanging party. Perhaps he can be contained until his constituents throw him out.
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