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Special Counsel for Russia Election Interference: Robert Mueller.

 
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 03:43 pm
@roger,
True, it's human nature.

Part of the speculation on speculation about Hillary refusing to accept a pardon from Obama.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 06:23 pm
@oralloy,
could he be making it any weirder? Now heposts some rather disquieting tweets about the very staffers hes been blowing his horn about.
I hop hedont stroke out. Im just hpoing he remain well so he regils us with his
1absence of humor and

2 absence of humor which makes him even funnier

3Paranoid narcissism

4inability to know how to lead.



Real Music
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 06:47 pm
@oralloy,
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I have grave fears that the Democrats will once again get innocent people convicted of imaginary crimes, like they did with Scooter Libby.
Correct me if I'm wrong. I seem to remember that Scooter Libby was former Vice President Cheney's chief of staff. He ultimately was convicted of some crime. He may have done some jail time. Cheney wanted former President George W Bush to pardon Scooter Libby. George W Bush declined Cheney's request to pardon Scooter Libby. Cheney was angry at Bush for not pardoning Scooter Libby. Bush ignored Cheney's request and Scooter Libby never receive a pardon from George W Bush. All of that this if from my memory. The details may not be totally accurate.

Quote:
Also it seems likely that Flynn and Manafort committed a minor offense that isn't worth prosecuting, but will likely be prosecuted anyway.
Do you think former President Bill Clinton lying under oath about an affair and covering up that affair was a minor offense?
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 08:01 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
could he be making it any weirder? Now heposts some rather disquieting tweets about the very staffers hes been blowing his horn about.

Tweets are meaningless. We need pardons.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 08:02 pm
@Real Music,
Real Music wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong. I seem to remember that Scooter Libby was former Vice President Cheney's chief of staff.

Correct.


Real Music wrote:
He ultimately was convicted of some crime.

A crime that he was completely innocent of.


Real Music wrote:
He may have done some jail time.

No jail, but he lost his law license and had to comply with probation.


Real Music wrote:
Cheney wanted former President George W Bush to pardon Scooter Libby. George W Bush declined Cheney's request to pardon Scooter Libby. Cheney was angry at Bush for not pardoning Scooter Libby. Bush ignored Cheney's request and Scooter Libby never receive a pardon from George W Bush.

Correct.

By and large the W presidency was pretty good, but W's shameful betrayal of Scooter Libby is a blemish that mars his entire presidency.


Real Music wrote:
Do you think former President Bill Clinton lying under oath about an affair and covering up that affair was a minor offense?

Well, yes and no. Perjury, obstruction of justice, and witness tampering are not trivial offenses.

But there would not have been a big Republican push to hound Clinton over any available scandal if the Democrats had not previously been hounding Republicans relentlessly. It was an act of self defense by the Republicans to get the Democrats to back off their witch hunting by giving them a dose of their own medicine.

If the Democrats succeed in damaging Trump with this current witch hunt, the Republicans will likely mire the next Democratic president in scandal investigations just like they did with Clinton.
layman
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 08:16 pm
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Robert Mueller expands special counsel office, hires 13 lawyers

(CNN)Special counsel Robert Mueller has brought 13 lawyers on board to handle the Russia investigation, with plans to hire more, according to his spokesman Peter Carr.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-lawyers/index.html

13 LAWYERS? Probably being paid $500+ an hour? All at taxpayer expense? With more coming?

For what!?

Lawyers don't investigate. They prosecute cases. Mueller must plan to file a shitload of charges immediately, eh? They investigation part must be over.

Edit: Meant to post this in a different thread. That's cool, though. I'll just post it there too.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 08:45 pm
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/trump-lawyer-broke-ethics-rules-telling-white-house-staff-not-hire-attorneys
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Trump Lawyer Broke Ethics Rules By Telling White House Staff Not To Hire Attorneys, Complaint Claims

President Donald Trump’s longtime personal attorney is the subject of a complaint filed by a watchdog group Thursday with the disciplinary body in charge of Washington attorneys, allegedly for dispensing legal advice to unrepresented White House staffers, a violation of bar rules and legal ethics.

Campaign for Accountability, a government ethics group, filed the complaint with the District of Columbia Court of Appeals' Office of Disciplinary Counsel in response to a story in Sunday’s New York Times that said Marc Kasowitz, who has represented Trump for 15 years, told presidential aides they did not yet need to hire lawyers in response to special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.

By telling White House aides they did not need to hire lawyers, Kasowitz dispensed legal advice to people who not only weren’t his clients, but whose interests in the coming legal storm might be contrary to the president’s
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Real Music
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 10:19 pm
@oralloy,
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But there would not have been a big Republican push to hound Bill Clinton over any available scandal if the Democrats had not previously been hounding Republicans relentlessly. It was an act of self defense by the Republicans to get the Democrats to back off their witch hunting by giving them a dose of their own medicine.
In response to the hounding of Bill Clinton, what relentless hounding of Republicans are you referring to?
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 11:00 pm
@Real Music,
Real Music wrote:
what relentless hounding of Republicans are you referring to?

Nixon and Reagan.

Also Senator Packwood. A lot of the hounding of Clinton for sexual escapades was because of what was done to Packwood.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jun, 2017 09:10 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/white-house-efforts-to-distract-trump-from-russia-are-literally-laugh-out-loud-ineffective-report/

White House efforts to distract Trump from Russia are literally laugh-out-loud ineffective: report
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President Donald Trump’s staffers have been trying to temper his obsession with the Russia probe, and the reporting on it, by starting his days with phone calls to outside legal advisers.

Those 6:30 a.m. calls are timed to give Trump some perspective on the case before he watches morning news shows and give him a sense of his legal team’s strategy for pushing back against the scandal engulfing his administration, three senior White House officials told the Washington Post.

So how’s that working out?

“Asked whether the tactic was effective,” the Post reported, “one top White House adviser paused for several seconds and then just laughed.”

The newspaper reported that Trump’s frustration with the investigation often erupts in rants to aides about TV news commentary or insults against Attorney General Jeff Sessions and his deputy, Rod Rosenstein.

He publicly rants in all caps on Twitter about the probe, which he angrily dismisses as a “WITCH HUNT” or “HOAX,” while also ripping President Barack Obama for not doing enough to stop Russian election interference.

The White House is trying to keep the Russia probe from stopping its agenda, although the Trump administration still hasn’t quite found its footing on governance.

“Interviews with 22 senior administration officials, outside advisers and Trump confidants and allies reveal a White House still trying, after five months of halting progress, to establish a steady rhythm of governance while also indulging and managing Trump’s combative and sometimes self-destructive impulses,” the Post reported.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jun, 2017 07:56 pm

Lindsey Graham, Chuck Grassley trying to block FBI investigation
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