Joe Nation wrote:I am with you on this, Baldimo, slap my hand away if you must but, know I am with you on this, Baldimo.
Is this one for the record books?
You are so right. I was in my sophomore year of high schools and thought things couldn't get any worse, then my parents sent me to military school and things got better. Suicide is never an option and people can always get help!
Baldimo wrote:I lack compassion for those who are weak of the mind and take their own lives without thinking of those around them. I've been there and was almost successful. I know what I am talking about.
I have heard low self esteem expressed many ways, but I gotta tell ya, that one was new to me.
High school can be an awful time for teenagers. My HS experience sucked!
and I'm glad you're here, but there's got to be a start on that having compassion for others thing, it's vital to good mental health.
Joe Nation wrote:and I'm glad you're here, but there's got to be a start on that having compassion for others thing, it's vital to good mental health.
Well no one ever said I was stable mentally, after all I joined the military during a time of unpopular war.
Phoenix
The Associated Press article I quoted on the original post used the word "vet." I merely echoed it with my headline.
edgarblythe wrote:Phoenix
The Associated Press article I quoted on the original post used the word "vet." I merely echoed it with my headline.
I saw the word "vet" in the article I read about it in the (I think) New York Times.
As you can see, I cut and pasted that word off of a news source, either provided by Google or Yahoo, an Associated Press article. I now don't think he was a vet either, but the original story did call him one. It could be a confusion over his name sounding somewhat like that word.
It's good that you found out that his suicide was a catalyst and that he was not a vet. Makes it all better I guess.
As just a side note.
I think it is sad whenever anyone kills himself/herself for any reason.
I suppose the reason that the sad occurrence made a story when unfortunately there are suicides everyday (I imagine) was the reason for it and where it took place.
edgarblythe- Check my edited post above yours. I did find a reference to "vet".
Phoenix
The article you found is word for word my original post.
Yup! Had to search around for it!
It was just that I had waded through so many articles, and up until I found that one, I did not see a reference to "vet". That is why when I post an article, I always provide a link.
A freind of mine wrote me this, until that time I harboured great anger toward anyone who succeeded in killing themselves. I was angry because of all the hurt and horror they'd left behind. I was angry because the futility of the action. I couldn't understand throwing it all away, the gift of life is a wonder but....Of course never having had the urge to do myself in, how could I possibly understand. For what it's worth............
Felt suicidal?: Sadly yes. On more than one occasion. And I have only one thing to say about it
.. People think that committing suicide is weak
. When you are suicidal
and you continue to live? Mmmmm that is superhuman strength. If you end up committing suicide
then it's understandable
given the degree of torturous pain you are going through. If people get angry over someone committing suicide then they are being selfish and not compassionate. Their anger speaks of them not of the person who has died. Imagine watching someone being skinned alive slowly. Or someone who is being consumed by cancer. If suffering is happening and is prolonged and cannot be alleviated then the usual reaction is to end the suffering. Just cause you can't see the wounds or you don't hear the screaming doesn't mean it isn't happening. Always remember that. Also remember that the person who is struggling the most won't ever show it. So smile eh? Say hello. It might jest make the difference.
Andrew Veal. I suppose that surname name said in a noisy room might be mistaken for vet.
I didn't provide a link in this instance because I didn't think it necessary when it was provided by the Associated Press.
Ceili- One never knows what is in the heart of any person who has decided to end his life. I went through a very serious illness some years ago, that supposedly was terminal. I had made preparations to take my own life, did the situation go so downhill, that recovery was impossible.
Happily, that contingency did not develop, and I did not have to go ahead with my plans. I have a belief that a person is master of his own life and/or death.
On the other hand, I would fight like a tiger to prevent a suicide of a young, healthy person who is going through a difficult period in his life.
Joe NAtion whines - "Wienies. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. I asked how can I share with you what it's like for a people to be in a war and you spit back a name.
I don't know where you are in America, but I'll bet the terror level isn't Orange. I don't know where you are in America but I'll bet you can't see Ground Zero from where you stand. I can. "
First, let me say that I was born and raised in Brooklyn (Greenpoint section) in the 50's. Lived and worked in Downtown Manhatten (Water Street), worked and "played" at WTC and saw it being built and saw it blown up TWICE. So spare me the "woe is me" nonsense. Most of the yuppie snobs in your neighborhood NEVER EVER stepped foot in MY neighborhood, yet you say you are in touch with the "working class".
Attitudes like yours is what give NYC a sour taste in middle America.
