You need a license to watch TV in UK?!

What?! You want more gun deaths (the topic Farmerman was addressing over a year ago)? A license to watch TV while residing in the UK (despite your oddly Floridian username)? Recognition and respect?

I don't know you anymore YourFloridaPukeGreeness. I mean!! You were always so... concise, relevant, and thought-provoking.

lol! Funny Walter.

I realize that it is not officially a tax, but, to us Americans, a compulsory fee is what we (I) would consider a tax. Much like a water tax or garbage collection tax or property tax.

You say that if you reside in a dwelling in Germany, then you must pay the fee. I suggest that why not just call it a tax and include it annual property taxes.

I get that you don't Walter. I understand that. What we are doing is what's called "having a conversation". I am not suggesting anything other than my opinion and I am not trying to tell you what is law...

Freedom. Dude wants some freedom.

We have a totally different legal system to yours.

Your "taxes" here are a combination of old Saxon ( stiura [old high German] and old Roman [tributum] law.
"Abgabe" (more precisely: financial levies - that's the collective term for all payments levied by virtue of public financial sovereignty to generate revenue. "Abgabe" is the generic term for taxes ("Steuern"), fees ("Gebühren") and contributions ("Beiträge").
- The use of public facilities does not play a role in taxes.
- For fees, actual use is required.
- For contributions, only the possibility of use is required.

That maybe the case. His post is anorexically thin on context and actual meaning. Not to mention... just a crime of bad grammar and English.

You don't know what freedom is. Lickspittles never do.

Americans who actually live freedom know a whole lot more about the subject than Europeans who have never even experienced it.

Is Izzy still here? huh.

You can stick your shitty freedom up your arse. Along with your shitty healthcare system, your shitty food regulations that force you to eat carcinogenic food additives, your school shooting NRA, your poisoned water, just made more polluted by Trump and your shitty television. In order to see anything half decent you have to pay through the nose.

Free people over here don't want guns, and because we're free we don't let sad pathetic losers have guns. Unfortunately the gun lobby and their lickspittles ride roughshod over freedom where you are.

You get back to drinking your poisoned water and doing what you're told, lickspittle.

Look, I support your right to choose "lack of freedom" if that is what you want for yourself.

But if you have what you want for yourself, you should be happy with your circumstances. You always seem so bitter at those of us who choose to be free.

Just the opposite -- the gun lobby protects our freedom.

I don't live in Flint (or any other city). I don't even live in a village. I live out in the middle of open farmland (although I don't farm). When I look out my windows, my neighbors' houses are isolated dots on the horizon.

My water comes from a privately-owned (by me) 200 foot well. It goes through a reverse osmosis filter before I drink it -- not because of any fears of poison, but because water from a well that deep has a lot of minerals in it.

Europeans are the serfs here. Free Americans get to do what we want.

apparently then, its our lives they care nothing about.

(40000* gun deaths in US in 2016 That's the size of a small city). Id support the 2nd amendment as settled law is it actually protected us rather than just gave lip service to words like "freedom".

I dont think"freedom to die brutally" is what the founding fathers really had in mind.






* Apparently the CDC said "go **** yourself " to the government and has resumed collecting and reporting data on gun deaths ( along with other causes of death and injury)

Spoken like a true lickspittle. You have no comprehension of what freedom is and should restrict yourself to subjects you do no something about, namely arselicking and doing what you're told.

I know exactly what freedom is. Free people have the right to carry guns. Serfs don't.

Nonsense. Our freedom isn't costing any lives.

Would these people be any less dead if they were killed with knives?

That's what's so great about President Trump. He cares about our freedom.

It's not like gun deaths are any more brutal than deaths by knife.

Trump should fire them and replace them with people who are interested in protecting us from dangerous diseases.

Wipe your mouth. Free people have UHC, Free people don't need guns. Free people don't **** their pants and cower in fear all the time.

You don't act like a free man. You don't even act like a serf or a slave. You act like an unthinking drone who does what he's told.

Real freedom is something to be valued. What you have is mindless servitude, nobody wants that.

silly analogy. of course, then wed have 40000 killed by guns and maybe an additional 200 killed by knives for a total of 40200.

apparently we define freedom and president very differently.

true dat, dead is dead but guns can kill a lot more per episode and at greater standoffs.The gun nutz know this fact real well but still try to foist the silly "A ninjA with a katana could do some damage also." .Its not an argument of "either or"even though you guys try to yank thatcase comparison out of your asses all the time. Im cerainly glad that the CDC is gathering gun death information. Kinda hard to deny severity of a problem when facts abound. Whatya think? Why wont you just argue the facts?

Theyre professional civil service, and kinda out of his reach. There are limits to power you know. Thats why the EPA has to reach down through political hacks to try to"fire climate scientists".
The Fed Govt IS NOT an "at will" hire and fire outfit for civil service professional corps.Besides, the physicians and statisticians who record accident and killings data arent the same staffers who deal with sickness and disease control.

I think that A case wherein a physician would be threatened with termination for collecting facts about gun fatalities and injuries (along with all the other fatalities like car wrecks and plane crashes) would be a really hard case with which to prevail in the USSC (even as right loaded as it is) What do you think, try to think in terms of reality not in your stanard bumper sticker style.

Nevertheless, If you really dont like knowing the facts about gun (and knife ) fatalities you are hereby invited to stick your fingers into your ears and yell "La La LA La I CANT HEAR YOU"*

*Its an SOP with the gun nutz

I understand why your head is so far up Trump's ass. You communicate in "NEWSPEAK" like he. He can look us in the eye and with complete sincerity, lie his fat ass off like a penny stock broker.

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oralloy gets the basic principle totally totallywrong. freedom is living your life without being shot. The NRA, the gun lobby, and an uber conservative hence fundamentally misguided SCOTUS majority have made us LESS free than most other First World countries.

Wrong. For the past 2600 years freedom has included the right to carry weapons for self defense.

And as the only country in the world that protects this right, the US is the only country in the world where people are free.

As usual I got everything right.

One good reason to vote for Trump is, he does not think that upholding civil liberties is misguided, and will appoint judges who agree.

Freedom is being able to choose your own government. No society is truly free because of vested interests lobbying, but at least in most nominally free societies the person with the most votes wins the election.