Michael Moore's first thoughts re the election

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Marine Lance Cpl. Nickalous N. Aldrich

21, of Austin, Texas; assigned to 2nd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Pendleton, Calif.; killed Aug. 27 in a non-hostile vehicle accident in Anbar province, Iraq.

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I bet you he was one bad-ass gyrene

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Army Spc. Ronald D. Allen, Jr.

22, of Mitchell, Indiana.
Allen was conducting convoy operations when he was involved in a vehicular accident near Balad, Iraq. Allen died of his injuries. He was assigned to the 502nd Personnel Service Battalion, 43rd Area Support Group, Fort Carson, Colorado. Died on August 25, 2003.

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Army Sgt. Glenn R. Allison

24, of Pittsfield, Mass.; assigned to 2nd Battalion, 14th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 10th Mountain Division, based in Fort Drum, N.Y.; died Dec. 18 during physical training in Baghdad.

PITTSFIELD, Mass. ?- A 24-year-old soldier who died in Iraq was remembered at a service as a family man and a role model.

Sgt. Glenn Richard Allison, who died Dec. 18 while undergoing physical training, was buried Dec. 27 with full military honors at Pittsfield Cemetery.

He "held high the flag for all of us, even in Baghdad, Iraq," the Rev. Charles E. Pratt Jr. said at the service at Dery Funeral Home.

Pratt described Allison as "Pittsfield's own Time magazine ?'Person of the Year,"' referring to the magazine's choice of the American soldier for the annual recognition.

"He was a family man, a good father, a wonderful brother, a product of our own Pittsfield West Side neighborhood," said Pratt, the pastor of Victory Temple Church of God.

Pratt said Allison's rank of sergeant was "testimony in itself that he was a leader and role model for men. We need leaders and role models in this world today."

After the service, the flag-draped casket was borne out of the funeral home by soldiers from Allison's own 10th Mountain Division, The Berkshire Eagle reported.

At the burial site, Allison's mother, Vanessa Allison of Pittsfield, his father, Kenneth Beatty of Greensboro, N.C., his sister and his 7-year-old daughter, sat in the front row of seats. His daughter held a teddy bear with a red Santa Claus hat.

A rifle squad fired three volleys and a lone bugler played taps. The flag from the casket was presented to Allison's mother. Flags were also presented to his father and daughter. Mourners at the close of the ceremony placed roses on the silver casket.

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msolga wrote:

I agree, but I feel extremely uncomfortable arguing the pros & cons while confronted with the images of these young men. To me, it's like they've been used shabbily once & I don't want to continue using them. However, it is very sobering seeing the young faces belonging to those names.

This is what I said a number of pages back, Lash. I don't want to have a debate here, that's all.

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Marine Lance Cpl. Michael J. Allred

SALT LAKE CITY ?- A Utah Marine was among seven Marines killed in a car-bomb attack near Fallujah, Iraq, his family said.

Lance Cpl. Michael Allred, 22, of Hyde Park, was killed Monday.

The military has not yet released the identities of the seven victims and could not confirm the family's report.

Allred had been scheduled to leave the Marine Corps in January after his four-year term expired, said his older brother Brad Allred, 26.

He said his brother had always wanted to be in military service or law enforcement, and died doing something he loved.

"He was looking forward to coming home and being done, but he didn't regret his service," he told The Associated Press Tuesday. "He was happy to serve, and he knew what he was doing was right."

Allred said the family was still trying to plan memorial services, and has had "a nonstop stream of visitors" at their home in Hyde Park, about 70 miles north of Salt Lake City.

Allred said he wasn't sure what his brother had planned after he returned home in January, but that he had talked about buying a motorcycle and traveling with a family member.

He said the family was mourning, but taking the loss well because Michael so firmly believed in serving.

"Knowing that he believed in what he was doing, and he was where he wanted to be ?- that makes it a little better," he said.

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OK. Truce. Thanks for posting, panzade.

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Marine Cpl. Nicanor Alvarez
22, of San Bernardino, Calif.; assigned to 1st Combat Engineer Battalion, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Pendleton, Calif.; killed Aug. 21 by enemy action in Anbar province, Iraq.

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Screw all you neocons who seem to have a hard time with those who are actually HONORING every single one of troops who have fallen in Iraq in this unbelievably unjust war.

I don't see ANY of you idiots honoring these fallen troops.

I find it despicable, pathetic, and SICK.

I also find it AMAZING that it is the LIBERALS and PROGRESSIVES who are honoring our fallen, while it is YOU neocons who demean and deface our attempt to give them their just due.

It was BUSH who showed up with a fake Turkey for TWO HOURS and then took off to take care of his special interests.

It is the liberal progressives who are actually HONORING these brave men, and it is those PROGRESSIVES who are actually GOING to Iraq to entertain these troops and give them something to hope for when they eventually get back to America, if ever.

SHAME on you!!

And YOU complain about US not being patriotic.

GODDAMN you!!!

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Dookiestix wrote:

Screw all you neocons who seem to have a hard time with those who are actually HONORING every single one of troops who have fallen in Iraq in this unbelievably unjust war.

I don't see ANY of you idiots honoring these fallen troops.

I find it despicable, pathetic, and SICK.

I also find it AMAZING that it is the LIBERALS and PROGRESSIVES who are honoring our fallen, while it is YOU neocons who demean and deface our attempt to give them their just due.

It was BUSH who showed up with a fake Turkey for TWO HOURS and then took off to take care of his special interests.

It is the liberal progressives who are actually HONORING these brave men, and it is those PROGRESSIVES who are actually GOING to Iraq to entertain these troops and give them something to hope for when they eventually get back to America, if ever.

SHAME on you!!

And YOU complain about US not being patriotic.

GODDAMN you!!!

Don't quite know who your talking to, but I was talking about Michael (use the troops as political pawns) Moore and his fake support for the troops.

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Marine Cpl. Daniel R. Amaya

22, of Odessa, Texas; assigned to 3rd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Twentynine Palms, Calif.; killed April 11 by hostile gunfire in Anbar province, Iraq.

ODESSA, Texas ?- Kacey Carpenter remembered her son Tuesday as a man with a great wit who had nurtured many dreams, including a career with the Marines.

Cpl. Daniel Amaya, 22, was killed Sunday during his second tour in Iraq.

"This was a great passion of his," Carpenter said. "He thoroughly, thoroughly loved being a Marine." As a youngster, she said, "he'd played secret agent games, shooting guns, I guess to prepare himself."

Amaya was one of two Marines killed by hostile fire in Al Anbar Province and among at least seven military personnel with Texas ties who died in combat in the past week.

Kacey Carpenter learned of Amaya's death Easter Sunday morning. She and her husband, David, heard the doorbell ring after returning from church.

"As soon as it rang, I knew," Kacey Carpenter said. "I just fell apart. I said, ?'Please don't say it.' My husband just held me and I got myself together and I said, ?'Tell me everything."'

She learned her son had been shot once in his neck and once in the shoulder.

"I didn't have a good feeling about this tour in Iraq," Carpenter said. "I just didn't have a peaceful feeling."

Carpenter said she was asleep when Amaya was killed.

"Why didn't I wake up?" she said. "Why didn't I know when my baby got hurt?"

Amaya graduated from Odessa High School in 2000, where he was a cheerleader and played in the band. Carpenter recalled how her son joked with her much of his life, the last time during a phone call at 4 a.m. Iraqi time about a week ago.

"He was always the ham of the family. He loved to play jokes on people. I think that's what he lived for."

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Gee, that's funny, because it is the Michael Moore's and the rest of the progressives who are the ONLY one's giving our fallen their just due.

It is YOU who are mearly ridiculing, in your utterly idiotic, partisan fashion, to make an absolutely meaningless point.

It is also YOU who represent the over 50,000,000 idiots who could care LESS about our fallen.

Treasonous doesn't even come close to defining you bastards.

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Dookiestix wrote:

Screw all you neocons who seem to have a hard time with those who are actually HONORING every single one of troops who have fallen in Iraq in this unbelievably unjust war.

I don't see ANY of you idiots honoring these fallen troops.

I find it despicable, pathetic, and SICK.

I also find it AMAZING that it is the LIBERALS and PROGRESSIVES who are honoring our fallen, while it is YOU neocons who demean and deface our attempt to give them their just due.

It was BUSH who showed up with a fake Turkey for TWO HOURS and then took off to take care of his special interests.

It is the liberal progressives who are actually HONORING these brave men, and it is those PROGRESSIVES who are actually GOING to Iraq to entertain these troops and give them something to hope for when they eventually get back to America, if ever.

SHAME on you!!

And YOU complain about US not being patriotic.

GODDAMN you!!!

Dookie, I know you would never grasp this without it being spelled out for you, but the concern I see expressed by the "neocons" is the use of these soldiers for political purposes. I don't think that's Panzade's intent here, and I think he's being respectful and honoring their memories. Using their names and images shamefully to promote a political agenda is despicable.

As far as your comment that you don't see any of us honoring these fallen soldiers, you apparently completely ignored Armyvet's post.

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This is what you seem to insist on demeaning and ridiculing:

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Gee, that's funny. You seem to insist on picking and choosing who is allowed to pay homage and respect to our fallen.

And you wonder why this country is so divided.

Pathetic.

Treasonous.

Disgusting.

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Army Pfc. John D. Amos II

22, of Valparaiso, Ind.; assigned to 1st Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division (Light), Schofield Barracks, Hawaii; killed April 4 when an improvised explosive device hit his military vehicle in Kirkuk, Iraq.

VALPARAISO, Ind. ?- A soldier who died after an explosive device hit his vehicle in northern Iraq was buried in his hometown of Valparaiso.

More than 200 people, including friends, family members and strangers, attended services Tuesday for Army Pfc. John Amos II, 22, known as J.D.

"He would have loved all the attention," said his mother, Susan Amos of Valparaiso.

She said military officials told her that her son died April 4 following a suicide attack in the Iraqi city of Kirkuk. She said military officials told her his left leg had to be amputated. Medics were unable to revive him when he went into cardiac arrest after he was put on an airplane for evacuation, she said.

Amos, who was assigned to the 25th Infantry Division (Light) from Schofield Barracks, Hawaii, had been in Iraq for two months. Army officials posthumously awarded him with a Bronze Star and Purple Heart.

John Amos grew up in Griffith before moving to Valparaiso, about 20 miles east of Gary. He joined the Army after graduating from Valparaiso High School in 2002, his mother said.

After a four-mile funeral procession through the city, six soldiers carried Amos' casket from a hearse to the grave while a bagpiper played "Amazing Grace."

Mourners surrounded the family at the cemetery, blocking a 25 mph wind, as an Army burial guard provided full military honors. Amos' older sister, Becky, placed a white flower next to his grave and kissed his casket.

Amos is one of 22 Hoosiers who have died in the war in Iraq.

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