Liberal Elite have NO CLUE

I find it hilarious how so many career military personnel are anti "welfare statist, nanny government".
They collect their checks every two weeks, get told what to wear and have their uniforms bought for them, they have access to FREE Healthcare and shop at the commissary... yet they sneer at the kind of system that feeds and shelters them... totally oblivious to the irony of it all.

I own lots of history books

Like...

...the initial war of Independence.

American conservatives were the ones arguing that George III was our liege lord...to whom we owed fealty. They claimed the "liberals"...or rebels...were traitors.



Like...

...our American Civil War.

American conservatives were the ones arguing that individual states should be allowed to decide whether or not slaves could be bought, sold, and held.

Frank wrote:

Like...

...the initial war of Independence.

American conservatives were the ones arguing that George III was our liege lord...to whom we owed fealty. They claimed the "liberals"...or rebels...were traitors.



Like...

...our American Civil War.

American conservatives were the ones arguing that individual states should be allowed to decide whether or not slaves could be bought, sold, and held.

... you mean .... there's been a war you approve of?

Hmm. Don't you think more talks, negotiations, summits, etc., were warranted before we rushed to war way back then?

Magus wrote:

I find it hilarious how so many career military personnel are anti "welfare statist, nanny government".
They collect their checks every two weeks, get told what to wear and have their uniforms bought for them, they have access to FREE Healthcare and shop at the commissary... yet they sneer at the kind of system that feeds and shelters them... totally oblivious to the irony of it all.

"Instigator" comments:
"Your post is idiotic at best, offensive to many people at its worst. Tell this to a soldier, I wouldnt be surprised if he busted your head open. Military is not the free ride you obviously think it is, to suggest so shows extreme ignorance.

Where did you get the notion that I do not "approve" of wars?

Of course there have been necessary wars...and although I don't particularly like the notion of "approving" of them...I certainly recognize their purpose.

As Karl von Clausewitz wrote: "War is not merely a political act, but also a political instrument, a continuation of political relations, carrying out of the same by other means."

But this war we are waging in Iraq is one of the most unnecessary...and ill-advised wars ever!

They truly have been on the wrong side of every major issue we've ever faced as a nation.

Frank wrote:

Where did you get the notion that I do not "approve" of wars?

Of course there have been necessary wars...and although I don't particularly like the notion of "approving" of them...I certainly recognize their purpose.

As Karl von Clausewitz wrote: "War is not merely a political act, but also a political instrument, a continuation of political relations, carrying out of the same by other means."

But this war we are waging in Iraq is one of the most unnecessary...and ill-advised wars ever!

Hmm. The way you began this post, I was fully expecting you to admit that you did indeed approve of both the Revolutionary War and the Civil War. At least "approved" in the sense that you considered them to be the "right" thing to do. Assuming, of course, that is the correct implication from your indication that the conservative's opposition to said wars was the "wrong side" of the issue. Which I believe is the proper indication from your clarification of the following point:

Quote:

They truly have been on the wrong side of every major issue we've ever faced as a nation.

But then you did an end-around on me, and stated you might find them "necessary" and "recognize their purpose," but you "don't particularly like the notion of "approving" of them." So I am beginning to sense less conviction from you, at least on these two "major issues," that the conservatives were on the "wrong side." Now I'm not sure what you believe.






You've been studying Kerryspeak, haven't you?

Instigate wrote:

Magus wrote:

I find it hilarious how so many career military personnel are anti "welfare statist, nanny government".
They collect their checks every two weeks, get told what to wear and have their uniforms bought for them, they have access to FREE Healthcare and shop at the commissary... yet they sneer at the kind of system that feeds and shelters them... totally oblivious to the irony of it all.

"Instigator" comments:
"Your post is idiotic at best, offensive to many people at its worst. Tell this to a soldier, I wouldnt be surprised if he busted your head open. Military is not the free ride you obviously think it is, to suggest so shows extreme ignorance.

"bust your head open"... There it is, folks, the brutes' answer to everything.
Their answer to political conflict is not dialogue or compromise... their answer is in VIOLENCE.
It's what they do because it's all they understand.

It's no mystery why they despise "intellectuals" and dispense with thought and reflection... opting instead for Gangster Loyalty.

woiyo wrote:

Conservatives has no clue about what Frank??

Damn near anything, Woiyo.

But in your case...and in this particular instance...

...about when to use the word "has" and when to use "have." :wink:

[There is nothing intellectual or profound about equating the Military to a Welfare Program. Most Democrats I know wouldnt even be able to make that stretch. You're way out in leftfield somewhere. You havent got a clue.

It is interesting to me that liberalism is often equated with socialism and communism when the military is about as socialistic a lifestyle as you can get and still be a U.S. citizen. As a young man entering the military, I was given a place to live, the food to eat, clothes to wear. I was given pay based not on my job duties, knowledge or skill, but on length of service or military rank. I was expected to obey my superiors without question. Individualism was frowned upon; same clothing, hair cut, etc. Just why that type of lifestyle relates to the republican party is worth considering. Sheoples comes to mind, but that would be disrespectful to the military unless you understand that discipline and following orders without question is extremely important in wartime activity and is the major part of incoming indoctrination.

Frank Apisa wrote:

woiyo wrote:

Conservatives has no clue about what Frank??

Damn near anything, Woiyo.

But in your case...and in this particular instance...

...about when to use the word "has" and when to use "have." :wink:

LMAO

So in Franks opinion, conservatives have no idea about anything?

Very revealing statement Frank. You must consider yourself part of the elite, "know it all" gang.