Kerry's Words Used by Enemy Against Tortured US POWs

I'm sure we can find plenty of really important things to talk about.

It doesn't annoy me as I will be voting with the 'left' this year. It amuses me that you are so transparent in your desire to quickly label and write off people whose opinions differ from yours.

I am not a Democrat as I've never registered under any political party. I believe I would be considered an independent. Perhaps now you would answer the same questions about yourself? Are you a neo-conservative? A tighty-righty? Are you a little to the right of Newt Gingrich? Actually I don't care. I choose to evaluate what you say, not what you are.

But here, 35 years later, it's time to get over Vietnam.

Unfortunately, the Bush camp can't do that, as they don't have a record to run on. It seems as though the Bush minions are also falling in line with this sad strategy of talking about anything BUT the issues that are really important to the American people.

Things like the background of a person that could be our next president.

Um ... remember that your candidate only wanted to talk about Vietnam at his convention -- not his record.

Gosh, I'm glad I amuse you. That's what I was going for.

We reciprocate, in a sense, because I'm amused that you are so concerned to be labeled, much like your candidate.

Free wrote:

I am not a Democrat as I've never registered under any political party. I believe I would be considered an independent. Perhaps now you would answer the same questions about yourself? Are you a neo-conservative? A tighty-righty? Are you a little to the right of Newt Gingrich? Actually I don't care. I choose to evaluate what you say, not what you are.

Which is it? Do you care, or don't you?

Free wrote:

But here, 35 years later, it's time to get over Vietnam.

Tell that to your candidate.

Dookie wrote:

Unfortunately, the Bush camp can't do that, as they don't have a record to run on. It seems as though the Bush minions are also falling in line with this sad strategy of talking about anything BUT the issues that are really important to the American people.

Um ... remember that your candidate only wanted to talk about Vietnam at his convention -- not his record.

...which we've already talked about here ad nauseum, with assertions like Ticomaya's last point being debunked over and over and over again. (Remember when we talked about that one?)

Kerry lied about atrocities: nope.

No atrocities took place: nope.

Kerry only wanted to talk about Vietnam at his convention: heck nope.

Moving on...

Whether he spoke the truth or not (and I don't think he did) is immaterial. What is important is the effect that his words had on the men who had been captured on the battlefields of Vietnam, and had to endure torture because of his decision to denigrate the American soldier.[/size]

You think Bush lied about Iraq because he passed on information he felt was true, but turned out not to be? Why shouldn't I think Kerry lied when he testified to the Senate because he passed on information he thought was true, but wasn't?

Bush's actions were taken to defend America. Kerry's were taken to tear it down.

This is a favored accusation. My candidate emphasized his record of service to his country, which he should rightfully be proud of. Anyone who watched the whole convention, or read the transcript of his speech, knows that Vietnam was not the only thing he wanted to talk about.

His alluding to it 6 times during one of the debates...

How many times did he allude to terrorism during the same debate?

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Ticomaya, what has been debunked (I'm not saying I'm the only one to do so) is whether he lied, and whether atrocities were committed.

I believe that men who were prisoners of war were upset by what Kerry said. (Not all of them, mind you -- McCain being a notable example of a POW who has been supportive of Kerry, even when it was politically awkward for him to do so.)

My question is, then what? Was Kerry supposed to say nothing because it would upset them?

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But let's not just forget he said them, shall we?