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Democracy, and how the US can push to become one.

 
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2019 06:39 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

You'll have to forgive us since I don't have the massive inteiiagence you think you do. I just look at the facts and base my opinions on them. Not what his majesty Trump tells me to believandIm sure Lush Limbaugh would tell you I am a stupid liberal believing facts after Trump informed me they were false news even before they were news. Now go away and live in your alternate universe.


OK, I forgive your obvious stupidity. You can't help being a congenital idiot, but since you recognize that you are maybe you can refrain from spewing your idiocy. It will make the world a better place.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2019 12:46 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
0Trump is a crook. He has been for more than 60 years. Since you regertate whatever he said on any given day I have to believe that you are a Trump clone. Who doesn't recognize the truth.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2019 10:24 am
@RABEL222,
Trump attracts people with his racism and division; mostly white supremacists and the uneducated. His wall, and calling Mexicans "criminals and rapists" is evidence enough, but his history in NYC tells all about his small unstable mind. He wanted 5 innocent black kids executed for a crime they didn't commit. Trump is a mental peewee, and a dangerous one! 200 political scientists declared Trump, "worst president in history." Trump has the worst approval rating in 40 years! Trump is a known racist and liar. His supporters are mental light weights. Trump's racism: https://www.metro.us/president-trump/trump-racism-history-abridged-timeline. Trump's lies: https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/. Trump's mental instability: https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrVk.EzeeVcgnwANwoPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByNWU4cGh1BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=trump%27s+mental+instability&fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2019 12:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
These facts will be ignored by ultraconservative republicans as attacks on the greatest president of our time. The problem is they cant believe a billionaire could be a crook even though evidence for this fact abounded.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2019 03:43 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
The problem is they cant believe a billionaire could be a crook

George Soros.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2019 05:27 pm
@RABEL222,
They miss the whole story on Trump's wealth. He inherited his wealth, and declared bankruptcy at least four times. He's proven to be a bigot and liar. What attracts people to this fraud and con?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2019 06:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
He's proven to be a bigot and liar.

What proves he is a bigot?
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2019 06:40 pm
@coldjoint,
The fact that you defend him? Everyone knows you are one of the biggest pravaracators on this site.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 22 May, 2019 06:54 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
The fact that you defend him?

That is how you come to a conclusion? Not surprised. I don't lie, and you say about nothing, if that, every time you post. Anything else?
RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2019 02:20 pm
@coldjoint,
You just lied again!!!
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2019 03:46 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
You just lied again!!!

PROVE IT.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2019 07:34 pm
@coldjoint,
Ollie is going to be passed at you for using his favorite comeback. When you know you've been proved wrong this is the sad rejoinder.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2019 07:58 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
Ollie is going to be passed

He probably would be a good quarterback. He would proofread all his plays.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2019 08:03 pm
@coldjoint,
Proof, Trump is a racist. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_n_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2019 08:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2019 08:08 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The first-person account of at least one black Trump casino employee in Atlantic City suggests the racist practices were consistent with Trump’s personal behavior toward black workers.

“When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, told the New Yorker for a September article. “It was the eighties, I was a teen-ager, but I remember it: they put us all in the back.”

Trump disparaged his black casino employees as “lazy” in vividly bigoted terms, according to a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, a former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino.

“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it,” O’Donnell recalled Trump saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

“I think the guy is lazy,” Trump said of a black employee, according to O’Donnell. “And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

Trump has also faced charges of reneging on commitments to hire black people. In 1996, 20 African Americans in Indiana sued Trump for failing to honor a promise to hire mostly minority workers for a riverboat casino on Lake Michigan.

Apparently Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) does not mind Trump's racism. Sessions endorsed the GOP front-runner on Monday.

Apparently Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) does not mind Trump’s racism. Sessions endorsed the GOP front-runner on Monday.
He refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him

Three times in a row on Feb. 28, Trump sidestepped opportunities to renounce white nationalist and former KKK leader David Duke, who told his radio audience last week that voting for any candidate other than Trump is “really treason to your heritage.”

When asked by CNN’s Jake Tapper if he would condemn Duke and say he didn’t want a vote from him or any other white supremacists, Trump claimed that he didn’t know anything about white supremacists or about Duke himself. When Tapper pressed him twice more, Trump said he couldn’t condemn a group he hadn’t yet researched.

By Feb. 29, Trump was saying that in fact he does disavow Duke, and that the only reason he didn’t do so on CNN was because of a “lousy earpiece.” Video of the exchange, however, shows Trump responding quickly to Tapper’s questions with no apparent difficulty in hearing.

It’s preposterous to think that Trump doesn’t know about white supremacist groups or their sometimes violent support of him. Reports of neo-Nazi groups rallying around Trump go back as far as August.

His white supremacist fan club includes the Daily Stormer, a leading neo-Nazi news site; Richard Spencer, director of the National Policy Institute, which aims to promote the “heritage, identity, and future of European people”; Jared Taylor, editor of American Renaissance, a Virginia-based white nationalist magazine; Michael Hill, head of the League of the South, an Alabama-based white supremacist secessionist group; and Brad Griffin, a member of Hill’s League of the South and author of the popular white supremacist blog Hunter Wallace.

A leader of the Virginia KKK who is backing Trump told a local TV reporter earlier this month, “The reason a lot of Klan members like Donald Trump is because a lot of what he believes, we believe in.”

And most recently, the Trump campaign announced that one of its California primary delegates was William Johnson, chair of the white nationalist American Freedom Party. The Trump campaign subsequently said his inclusion was a mistake, and Johnson withdrew his name at their request.

President Barack Obama mercilessly ridiculed Trump’s birtherism at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner in 2011.
He questioned whether President Obama was born in the United States

Long before calling Mexican immigrants “criminals” and “rapists,” Trump was a leading proponent of “birtherism,” the racist conspiracy theory that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States and is thus an illegitimate president. Trump claimed in 2011 to have sent people to Hawaii to investigate whether Obama was really born there. He insisted at the time that the researchers “cannot believe what they are finding.”

Obama ultimately got the better of Trump, releasing his long-form birth certificate and relentlessly mocking the real estate mogul about it at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner that year.

But Trump continues to insinuate that the president was not born in the country.

“I don’t know where he was born,” Trump said in a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference in February 2015. (Again, for the record: He was born in Hawaii.)

He treats racial groups as monoliths

Like many racial instigators, Trump often answers accusations of bigotry by loudly protesting that he actually loves the group in question. But that’s just as uncomfortable to hear, because he’s still treating all the members of the group ― all the individual human beings ― as essentially the same and interchangeable. Language is telling, here: Virtually every time Trump mentions a minority group, he uses the definite article the, as in “the Hispanics,” “the Muslims” and “the blacks.”

In that sense, Trump’s defensive explanations are of a piece with his slander of minorities. Both rely on essentializing racial and ethnic groups, blurring them into simple, monolithic entities, instead of acknowledging that there’s as much variety among Muslims and Latinos and black people as there is among white people.

How did Trump respond to the outrage last year that followed his characterization of Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists?

“I’ll take jobs back from China, I’ll take jobs back from Japan,” Trump said during his visit to the U.S.-Mexican border in July. “The Hispanics are going to get those jobs, and they’re going to love Trump.”

“The Hispanics are going to get those jobs, and they’re going to love Trump.”
Donald Trump, July 2015
How did Trump respond to critics of his proposal to ban Muslims from entering the U.S.?

“I’m doing good for the Muslims,” Trump told CNN in December. “Many Muslim friends of mine are in agreement with me. They say, ‘Donald, you brought something up to the fore that is so brilliant and so fantastic.’”

Not long before he called for a blanket ban on Muslims entering the country, Trump was proclaiming his affection for “the Muslims,” disagreeing with rival candidate Ben Carson’s claim in September that being a Muslim should disqualify someone from running for president.

“I love the Muslims. I think they’re great people,” Trump said, insisting that he would be willing to name a Muslim to his presidential cabinet.

How did Trump respond to the people who called him out for funding an investigation into whether Obama was born in the United States?

“I have a great relationship with the blacks,” Trump said in April 2011. “I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks.”

Even when Trump has dropped the definite article “the,” his attempts at praising minority groups he has previously slandered have been offensive.

Look no further than the infamous Cinco de Mayo taco bowl tweet:

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Happy #CincoDeMayo! The best taco bowls are made in Trump Tower Grill. I love Hispanics! https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10157008375200725:0

137K
11:57 AM - May 5, 2016

Former Republican presidential candidate and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) had a good breakdown of everything that was wrong with Trump’s comment.

“It’s like eating a watermelon and saying ‘I love African-Americans,’” Bush quipped.

He trashed Native Americans, too

In 1993, when Trump wanted to open a casino in Bridgeport, Connecticut, that would compete with one owned by the Mashantucket Pequot Nation, a local Native American tribe, he told the House subcommittee on Native American Affairs that “they don’t look like Indians to me... They don’t look like Indians to Indians.”

Trump then elaborated on those remarks, which were unearthed last year in the Hartford Courant, by saying the mafia had infiltrated Indian casinos.

In the 1980s, Donald Trump was much younger, but just as racist as he is now.

In the 1980s, Donald Trump was much younger, but just as racist as he is now.
He encouraged the mob justice that resulted in the wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five


In 1989, Trump took out full-page ads in four New York City-area newspapers calling for the return of the death penalty in New York and the expansion of police authority in response to the infamous case of a woman who was beaten and raped while jogging in Manhattan’s Central Park.

“They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes,” Trump wrote, referring to the Central Park attackers and other violent criminals. “I want to hate these murderers and I always will.”

The public outrage over the Central Park jogger rape, at a time when the city was struggling with high crime, led to the wrongful conviction of five teenagers of color known as the Central Park Five.

The men’s convictions were overturned in 2002, after they’d already spent years in prison, when DNA evidence showed they did not commit the crime. Today, their case is considered a cautionary tale about a politicized criminal justice process.

Trump, however, still thinks the men are guilty.

He condoned the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester

At a November campaign rally in Alabama, Trump supporters physically attacked an African-American protester after the man began chanting “Black lives matter.” Video of the incident shows the assailants kicking the man after he has already fallen to the ground.

The following day, Trump implied that the attackers were justified.

“Maybe [the protester] should have been roughed up,” he mused. “It was absolutely disgusting what he was doing.”

Jeremy Diamond

@JDiamond1
A black protester at Trump's rally today in Alabama was shoved, tackled, punched & kicked: http://cnn.it/1N0wnUg 3,104
1:46 PM - Nov 21, 2015 · Birmingham, AL

8,909 people are talking about this

Trump’s dismissive attitude toward the protester is part of a larger, troubling pattern of instigating violence toward protesters at campaign events that has singled out people of color.

One reason Trump may have exhibited special disdain for that particular demonstrator in November, however, is because he believes the entire Black Lives Matter movement lacks legitimate policy grievances. He alluded to these views in an interview with the New York Times magazine this week when he described Ferguson, Missouri, as one of the most dangerous places in America. The small St. Louis suburb is not even in the top 20 highest-crime municipalities in the country.

He called supporters who beat up a homeless Latino man “passionate”

Trump’s racial incitement has already inspired hate crimes. Two brothers arrested in Boston last summer for beating up a homeless Latino man cited Trump’s anti-immigrant message when explaining why they did it.

“Donald Trump was right ― all these illegals need to be deported,” one of the men reportedly told police officers.

Trump did not even bother to distance himself from them. Instead, he suggested that the men were well-intentioned and had simply gotten carried away.

“I will say that people who are following me are very passionate,” Trump said. “They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate.”

Trump’s daughter Ivanka, second from left, converted to Judaism in 2009. That has not stopped Trump from bringing up anti-Semitic stereotypes.
He stereotyped Jews and shared an anti-Semitic meme created by white supremacists

When Trump addressed the Republican Jewish Coalition in December, he tried to relate to the crowd by invoking the stereotype of Jews as talented and cunning businesspeople.

“I’m a negotiator, like you folks,” Trump told the crowd, touting his book The Art of the Deal.

“Is there anyone who doesn’t renegotiate deals in this room?” Trump said. “Perhaps more than any room I’ve spoken to.”

But that wasn’t even the most offensive thing Trump told his Jewish audience. He implied that he had little chance of earning the Jewish Republican group’s support, because his fealty could not be bought with campaign donations.

“You’re not going to support me, because I don’t want your money,” he said. “You want to control your own politician.”

Ironically, Trump has many close Jewish family members. His daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism in 2009 before marrying the real estate mogul Jared Kushner. Trump and Kushner raise their two children in an observant Jewish home.

Then in July, Trump tweeted an anti-Semitic Hillary Clinton meme that featured a photo of her over a backdrop of $100 bills with a six-pointed Jewish Star of David next to her face.

“Crooked Hillary - - Makes History!” he wrote in the tweet, which also read “Most Corrupt Candidate Ever” over the star.

The holy symbol was co-opted by the Nazis during World War II when they forced Jews to sew it onto their clothing. Using the symbol over a pile of money is blatantly anti-Semitic and re-enforces hateful stereotypes of Jewish greed.

But Trump insisted the image was harmless.

“The sheriff’s badge ― which is available under Microsoft’s ‘shapes’ ― fit with the theme of corrupt Hillary and that is why I selected it,” he said in a statement.

Mic, however, discovered that the the meme was actually created by white supremacists and could be found on a neo-Nazi forum more than a week before Trump shared it. Additionally, a watermark on the image leads to a Twitter account that regularly tweets racist, sexist political memes.

He treats African-American supporters as tokens to dispel the idea he is racist

At a campaign appearance in California in June, Trump boasted that he had a black supporter in the crowd, saying “look at my African American over here.”

“Look at him,” Trump continued. “Are you the greatest?”

Trump went on to imply that the media conceals his appeal among African Americans by not covering the crowd more attentively.

“We have tremendous African-American support,” he said. “The reason is I’m going to bring jobs back to our country.”

In fact, Trump has the lowest level of African-American support of any Republican presidential nominee since 1948, according to FiveThirtyEight. As of the most recent polling, just 2 percent of black voters plan to vote for him ― fewer than the percentage who plan to vote for Green Party candidate Jill Stein or Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson.

It may not be surprising that Trump has brought so much racial animus into the 2016 election cycle, given his family history. His father, Fred Trump, was the target of folk singer Woody Guthrie’s lyrics after Guthrie lived for two years in a building owned by Trump pere: “I suppose / Old Man Trump knows / Just how much / Racial hate / He stirred up / In the bloodpot of human hearts.”

And last fall, a news report from 1927 surfaced on the site Boing Boing, revealing that Fred Trump was arrested that year following a KKK riot in Queens. It’s not clear exactly what the elder Trump was doing there or what role he may have played in the riot. Donald Trump, for his part, has categorically denied (except when he’s ambiguously denied) that anything of the sort ever happened.

Editor’s note: Donald Trump is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist, birther and bully who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims ― 1.6 billion members of an entire religion ― from entering the U.S.

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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2019 08:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,

Quote:
Proof, Trump is a racist

I asked for proof that he was a bigot, pay attention. And an one-sided opinion piece is not proof he is a racist.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 24 May, 2019 03:19 pm
@coldjoint,
You post opinion pieces as fact all the time. But no one but you can do so? You are more transparent than you realize.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 24 May, 2019 03:50 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
You are more transparent than you realize.

How does that help a blind man?
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 25 May, 2019 11:08 am
@coldjoint,
That will be a surprise to my eye doctor.
 

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