192
   

monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
giujohn
 
  -1  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 09:20 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Trump bellwether: Ossoff appears to have it in the bag.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329361-live-results-georgia-special-election


The only thing in the bag is his surefire loss in a runoff.
blatham
 
  3  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 09:41 pm
@McGentrix,
For the love of god, man. If three generals say X then X must be true? Is this a an inviolable law? An axiom? True in every army? Is it like three politicians? Three doctors? Three climate scientists?
georgeob1
 
  1  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 10:04 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Once again. Bias isn't the key problem. Bias is universal and it is a feature of the mental life of all of us. It is not avoidable. But it does not follow from this fact that therefore any commentary is equal to any other commentary or that any opinion is equal to another opinion.

Your link goes to Tim Kane writing at the Atlantic. He notes that disaffection with the military leadership pre-dates Obama's tenure.

Your quotes all come from Fox broadcasts except one from the NY Post. Bias itself is not the problem with either outlet. Something far more egregious is their failing. You won't accept that because it's the world you live in and because your media studies are paltry and your critical skills untutored.

That there are military people who despise Obama or who despise liberalism or would like to go punch a hippy or whatever is not news. And that they are parroting a RW story is not news either.


I wonder if McGentrix is aware that Blatham has found him to be so "untutored". Unfortunately Blatham has never revealed his own credentials or the experience on which he bases his insights. Just what experience, education or training constitute his credentials as a tutor, other than extensive reading of mostly liberal opinion pieces and some 'studies of education theory' or something like that. It appears clear that he really does see himself as such a tutor. If so just what the hell are his credentials ?

Blatham grandly notes the universality of bias but reserves judgment to himself alone on just what sources are more reliable than others. It's generally not hard to guess those he prefers.

He is also sure that those who "despise liberalism" are merely "parroting a RW news story". Unfortunately he makes no such judgment on LW news stories, and I can't count the number of LW "news stories" Blatham has posted here, all, according to him, incisive and accurate assessments of facts. It seems to me that his "parroting" is a good deal more frequent and intense than that of those he so blithely accuses.

It appears Blatham imagines himself to sit in judgment of us all here; distinguishing between fact and opinion and the sole judge of which (an whose) opinions merit serious attention.

The truth is he in no tutor, and no judge, notwithstanding all his pretense, and all the LW propaganda he reads and pastes here so assiduously. He is just another poster among many, though he is far more prolific than most and devotes far more time to this than any of us.

blatham
 
  6  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 10:23 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
If so just what the hell are his credentials ?

I did a semester at Trump University. It's where I learned the secrets of how to become a super genius. And you can too! I will sell you my curriculum pack with accompanying lecture CD for the purchase price - $14,872 US. You want to be a WINNER! I know you do. Send your money today. It'll be terrific!!

And send along another $7000 to learn my techniques for grabbing women by the pussy and GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!!
glitterbag
 
  3  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 10:26 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

Blatham has chosen to ignore my posts, but here is this> Maybe one of you can quote it or whatever.

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years

Quote:
We recognize President Obama is the commander-in-chief and that throughout history presidents from Lincoln to Truman have seen fit to remove military commanders they view as inadequate or insubordinate. Turnover in the military ranks is normal, and in these times of sequestration and budget cuts the numbers are expected to tick up as force levels shrink and missions change.

Yet what has happened to our officer corps since President Obama took
office is viewed in many quarters as unprecedented, baffling and even harmful to our national security posture.
We have commented on some of the higher profile cases, such as Gen. Carter Ham. He was relieved as head of U.S. Africa Command after only a year and a half because he disagreed with orders not to mount a rescue mission in response to the Sept. 11, 2012, attack in Benghazi.



Oh Goody, something ironclad from Breitbart. Who could argue with that?
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 10:28 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

For the love of god, man. If three generals say X then X must be true? Is this a an inviolable law? An axiom? True in every army? Is it like three politicians? Three doctors? Three climate scientists?


What is the magic number then? 10? 100? 1000? Every General until we find that one that is the exception and therefore the rest are all full of ****?

What is the number of Generals you'd need to hear from about Obama weakening the US military for you to believe it?
blatham
 
  5  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 10:31 pm
@glitterbag,
Actually, that was an interesting exercise. This stuff is all over RW media-land. And it ain't anywhere else. It's is the mechanism by which these folks have landed in an alternate universe and that's hit home whenever one chases down some such claim or story.
layman
 
  -1  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 10:47 pm
Another crazed muslim terrorist on a killing spree in California. Who woulda guessed, I ask ya?

Quote:
On Tuesday morning, police say Muhammad stalked the streets of downtown Fresno, fatally shooting three white men with a .357 revolver. Before surrendering to police, he allegedly shouted “Allahu akbar” and expressed hatred toward white people and the government, according to Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer.

The attack occurred over less than two minutes with Muhammad firing a total of 16 shots. Dyer said he surrendered to a responding officer without incident and later apologized to the chief.

In addition to Tuesday’s killings, police said Muhammad was suspected in the fatal shooting of a security guard, also a white male, last week.

After firing at the truck passenger, Muhammad walked west on East Mildreda Avenue, where he came across a resident and opened fire, Dyer said, but missed his target.

Muhammad then continued walking on Mildreda and approached Fulton Street, where he fatally shot another man before reloading his weapon, Dyer said.

He then headed toward Catholic Charities in the 100 block of North Fulton Street and fired a second fatal volley of gunfire, killing a man in the parking lot.

On Monday he wrote: “MY KILL RATE INCRESASES TREMENDOUSLY ON THE OTHER SIDE ASÈ ALLAH U AKBAR.”

Brian Levin, director of Cal State San Bernardino’s Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism, said many of Muhammad’s social media postings make reference to terms used by the Nation of Islam, which has been labeled a racist hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Pointing to Muhammad’s repeated references to “white devils” and “Yakub” — the villainous figure responsible for creating white people, according to Nation of Islam lore — Levin said it is likely Muhammad thought he was taking part in a race war against whites.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-fresno-shooting-20170418-story.html
0 Replies
 
glitterbag
 
  4  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 11:04 pm
@McGentrix,
If you put 10 flag officers in a room, they will agree they are the only ones who know how to keep the military strong. Once that's decided, the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force start sabotaging each other's aspirations by making a mad grab for the biggest piece of the pie.

I don't want to see the country run by the military, I'm happy with the founders idea of a civilian CIC. Anybody remember the patriots and militia groups American Spring planned for May 2014 in D.C.. a group of right thinking Americans who were going to toss out Obama, Boehner, Pelosi or any other elected officials these folks could not abide? I remember reading about it, the organizers thought they could collect about 3 million people to shout Obama and Boehner out of office and create a new government in their own image (that's my phrase because I can't imagine why they thought they I recall that a Army Col. Harry Riley (ret) was one of the organizers and I noticed only because we used to work with an Army Col with the same name. What a qwinky dink. About a month later all the gossip hit the fan, it wasn't just a guy with a similar name.....it was our Col Riley, the humorless officer who was immensely frustrated because he had never worked Intell. Additionally, while he was assigned to us most of the civilians outranked him and had spent years learning their craft. It wasnt so much that everyone liked or disliked him, many officers who take a tour with us never get comfortable and can't deal with not having absolute control. But I never thought I'd see one of those guys actually get
involved in a fools errand like organize a public overthrow of a lawful elected
government.

So apparently crazy old Col Riley didn't like how Obama was doing, but I wouldn't take his opinion as informed or expert. Not Even if you got 110 Col. Rileys.

You can google Col. Riley and read about his 2014 stunt.
blatham
 
  3  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 11:30 pm
@glitterbag,
I actually felt a bit sorry for those people. It cannot be comfortable to be that delusional.
glitterbag
 
  3  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 11:50 pm
@blatham,
I'm not saying they aren't smart, just skilled in a different discipline. I wouldn't know how to function at SAC, but they don't come to become experts...they are assigned to us to broaden their understanding of collection, and all the other skills needed to developed usable intelligence. Since they are officers, they shouldn't start at an entry level and they always have a civilian deputy to balance out the duties.

Oh wait, you were referring to the crackpots who thought they could install a government contrary to the one the voters put in place. Sorry, I'm on too many topics and got confused.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 11:56 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
I do have to give you credit for being honest about not understanding other people's perception of reality.

You misunderstand my post. I completely understand their perception of reality. That is why I correctly stated that some countries have no grasp of reality.
0 Replies
 
hightor
 
  3  
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 03:00 am
Quote:
Surprise.

Rush Limbaugh was right in his way: What Trump said during the campaign was, in fact, a load of nonsense deployed for the purposes of steamrolling the other side in difficult and delicate negotiations. What Limbaugh and the rest of Trump’s admirers missed is that it wasn’t NATO and the Chi-Coms and Enrique Peña Nieto on the other side of the negotiating table getting hornswoggled.

It was them.

NR

They're still smarting because low-energy Jeb! fizzled out so quickly.

Speaking of fizzling out quickly, Ossoff's loss doesn't bode particularly well for Dems in the South.
Olivier5
 
  4  
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 04:08 am
@giujohn,
Quote:
We'll all be dead in 100 years so what are ya getting your panties in a bunch for?

Our children and grand children.
hightor
 
  4  
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 04:25 am
@giujohn,
Quote:
Also, co2 doesn't cause GW...The sun does.

This simplistic observation is at best only partially true because it ignores the effect of planetary atmosphere on heat retention. But your grasp of complicated notions like "cause and effect" is a hopeful sign.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 05:35 am
@hightor,
Leaving the windows open doesn't make your house colder/wetter, it's the wind and rain that does that.

I'm amazed you have the patience to debate with someone so stupid.
0 Replies
 
Olivier5
 
  2  
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 05:41 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Oh yes. I love cream pie assassins. They are among my favorite humans.

Our pastry terrorist is from Belgium but he graces neighbouring France with his attacks. One of his favorite victims is Bernard Henri Lévy, a pretentious and IMO fake intellectual / philosopher who loves TV cameras a bit too much. He's been covered in cream 8 times so far. There's even a song about it, "L'Entarté".
giujohn
 
  0  
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 05:45 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Quote:
We'll all be dead in 100 years so what are ya getting your panties in a bunch for?

Our children and grand children.


I don't have any children.
0 Replies
 
Lash
 
  1  
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 05:58 am
Looks like Trump fizzled out too. Although I'm personally relieved that he's not ratcheting up the brinkmanship with Weirdo Fatty, he has opened himself to bad sex metaphors. Did the just spend several million on a drive by?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39638012?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

The Carl Vinson group diverts from NK.
Lash
 
  1  
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 06:04 am
Disarray around Trump's WH and military.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/aircraft-carrier-north-korea-170418230244018.html

Again, I'm glad we backed away from what I agree was reckless provocation, but the stunted gesture looks very bad.
 

Related Topics

Obama '08? - Discussion by sozobe
Let's get rid of the Electoral College - Discussion by Robert Gentel
McCain's VP: - Discussion by Cycloptichorn
Food Stamp Turkeys - Discussion by H2O MAN
The 2008 Democrat Convention - Discussion by Lash
McCain is blowing his election chances. - Discussion by McGentrix
Snowdon is a dummy - Discussion by cicerone imposter
TEA PARTY TO AMERICA: NOW WHAT?! - Discussion by farmerman
 
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 1.08 seconds on 11/25/2024 at 07:49:07