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@camlok,

camlok wrote:

This is the same degree of lunacy that caused you folks to scream for Iraqis and Afghans to be slaughtered.
The terrorists are coming, the terrorists are coming!

If the terrorists did not want us to defend ourselves against their aggression, they should not have attacked us.

camlok wrote:

How many more millions need to die before you people of the short brain memory remember that it has always been lies that has taken you there to those places where you watched children slaughtered.

All of them.

camlok wrote:

Have you not the slightest sense of compassion, not an ounce of humanity in your entire 330 million?

Not for people who cheered for 9/11.

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@oralloy,

Quote:

The problem is, the North Koreans ARE that crazy.

The lunacy continues. The people have never invaded anyone, legally or illegally while the US has over 70 illegal invasions since WWII and tens of millions slaughtered.

Who are the crazy people?

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@camlok,

camlok wrote:

The people have never invaded anyone, legally or illegally

Nonsense. North Korea tried to invade South Korea back in the 1950s, and has routinely made illegal aggressions ever since.

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@oralloy,

Let's allow that one, even though it is a lie. That puts the USA far ahead in its vicious war crimes against over seventy sovereign nations, all those tens of millions murdered by the beacon of freedom.

There was no South Korea. It was a US orchestrated figment. The US collaborated with Japanese troops to murder many of the south's people and then the US brought in its brutal, right wing dictator, right wing and brutal and vicious like you love to illustrate you are in all your posts.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

I bet if I were to look into the matter again, I'd find that the alleged scientists were still skewing their data.

Let's bet the survival of the next two or three generations, shall we?

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

hat oil companies have more more money at stake doesn't mean that "lowly" scientists can't be corrupted by money

Well yes, most "scientists" doubting GW are corrupt. They are paid for by Big Oil, so as to confuse the credulous. It's disinformation pure and simple and it works on the American masses.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

The North Koreans would be crazy to attack us.

The NK deterrent is based on a strike first policy while the leadership disappears into some bolt hole, (probably with the help of China) leaving the population to face the consequences. That hasn't changed.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

Quote:
Wikileaks
3 mins ·
Media hype Trump's bomb theatre. But the Pentagon dropped 26,172 bombs during 2016. More than a MOAB every day.
Even if all these bombs averaged 1000lbs that's 71,404lbs a day or almost three MOABs a day.

Yup. A PR stunt in all likelihood. Trump or someone in his camp has decided that he'll be more successful politically if he portrays himself as a tough guy war president. It's a narrative much of the media can be counted on to just forward as dramatic stenography.

PR stunt my ass. Mad Dog wouldn't even consider such a thing.

The only "public relations" aspect in the use such a device is the psychological affect and the message it sends to the enemy.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Dance around it all you like. The Nobel Prize is supposed to be awarded for achievement.

They say it was awarded to him for what they thought he'd do.

It was a politically-motivated, shallow devaluation of the Nobel Prize.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

The Nobel Prize is supposed to be awarded for achievement.

Quote:

The said interest shall be divided into five equal parts, which shall be apportioned as follows: /- - -/ one part to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.

(Quoted from Nobel's will via the Nobel Prize website)

You make the rules, or are you a member of that committee in Norway?

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According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize shall be awarded to the person who in the preceding year "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses"

It has been expressed that the Peace Prize has been awarded in politically motivated ways for more recent or immediate achievements, or with the intention of encouraging future achievements. Some commentators have suggested that to award a peace prize on the basis of unquantifiable contemporary opinion is unjust or possibly erroneous, especially as many of the judges cannot themselves be said to be impartial observers.

The awards given to Mikhail Gorbachev, Yitzhak Rabin, Shimon Peres, Menachem Begin and Yasser Arafat, Lê Đức Thọ, Henry Kissinger,Jimmy Carter,Al Gore,IPCC,Liu Xiaobo, Barack Obama, and the European Union[3 have all been the subject of controversy.

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@saab,

In this case, controversies are a good thing. The nobel peace price means nothing if it doesn't lead to discussions.

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Word is out, that, for two million dollars, Huma Abedin is willing to write a book about her personal relationship with Hillary. The tentative title is "Munchin Carpet at State."

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@Olivier5,

Actually, there are controversies about any prize, even (or especially?) about small local ones.
Notorious controversies have been over Nobel Prizes for Literature and Economics as well.

Sabb will know it better, but there has been a Danish book (Intet, by Janne Teller), which got the Kulturministeriets børnebogspris ("Book prize of the culture ministry") and the Michael L. Printz Award, but was forbidden in Danish schools (and some libraries) for some time.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Lash wrote:
The Nobel Prize is supposed to be awarded for achievement.

Quote:
The said interest shall be divided into five equal parts, which shall be apportioned as follows: /- - -/ one part to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.
(Quoted from Nobel's will via the Nobel Prize website)

You make the rules, or are you a member of that committee in Norway?

I'm an engaged observer who can read their criteria and call bullshit on Obama's award.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

No?

You really don't think grant money motivates actions and opinions?

I didn't take you for a scientist worshipper.

Don't mistake Science for Scientist. I think grant money motivates scientists to seek grant money but, for the most part, does not effect the actual science. Especially peer reviewed science. 2 things I know about scientists; A> The love to prove other scientists wrong and B> They hate having their work disproven by other scientists.

99% will not publish results that they know are wrong because they will be rather simply disproven.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

Well yes, most "scientists" doubting GW are corrupt. They are paid for by Big Oil, so as to confuse the credulous. It's disinformation pure and simple and it works on the American masses.

Nonsense. Scientist's opposed to climate change are no more or less honest than scientists that support climate change. They just see the data differently and the possible effects of what that data represents.

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"They just see the data differently".
Welcome to the realm of alternate facts.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

oralloy wrote:
I bet if I were to look into the matter again, I'd find that the alleged scientists were still skewing their data.

Let's bet the survival of the next two or three generations, shall we?

If you believe the hazard is that severe and proximate then you should also recognize the efforts being advocated and taken today are merely pissing into the wind, woefully inadequate for the problem. A rather strange contradiction it appears.

How did you fee about Chancellor Merkel's premature shutdown of Germany's older nuclear power plants? It was effective in destroying Germany's Green party but it quickly wiped out all the emissions savings of Germany's wind power investment.

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@snood,

snood wrote:

"They just see the data differently".
Welcome to the realm of alternate facts.

How did life begin? Do you have a definitive answer for that? I know many, many people have looked at the data and come up with different answers.

What is consciousness? Have any facts to share on that?

Is time travel possible? Many, many scientists have looked at this problem and have different answers.

Are these all simply "alternate facts"? Do you have a single answer for any of these? Do you have any actual "facts" to support what the end result of climate change will be?

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