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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Olivier5
 
  1  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:10 am
@layman,
One can take pride in one's enemies, but hatred is not something that can be liked, IMO.
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layman
 
  -1  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:12 am
I love the way the cheese-eaters try to suggest that paying the taxes due is wrong. You follow the law, you fill out the forms, and you send it in, right? You pay the amount owed.

How many cheese-eaters figure out their taxes, then just add several thousand (or million) to the check they write to the IRS, eh?

Any? Any at all? Ever?

No, they pay what is due, like Trump.

But Trump is somehow screwing them, they think, if he doesn't pay MORE than is due.
giujohn
 
  1  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:15 am
@layman,
layman wrote:

I love the way the cheese-eaters try to suggest that paying the taxes due is wrong. You follow the law, you fill out the forms, and you send it in, right? You pay what is what is owed.

How many cheese-eaters figure out their taxes, then just add several thousand (or million) to the check they write to the IRS, eh?

Any? Any at all? Ever?

No, they pay what is due, like Trump.

But Trump is somehow screwing them, they think, if he doesn't pay MORE than is due.


I'm still waiting for that socialist Bernie to kick back a couple hundred thousand dollars to the IRS considering how small of a percentage he paid on his taxes.
maporsche
 
  4  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:15 am
I don't think it likely that MSNBC broke the law by releasing the tax returns, however, I wonder if the White House releasing the same tax returns BEFORE Maddow's show aired, gives her protection.

I mean, if you take the stance that publishing the tax returns is illegal unless you have permission....and then the white house gives permission by releasing them BEFORE the news can publish it, then how can the news media break the law by showing something that the white house just released?
giujohn
 
  0  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:17 am
@maporsche,
Well you see you got that wrong because she held up a copy that stamped client copy. So she wasn't publishing something that was already published by the client.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:17 am
So much for freedom of speech, and having a sense of humour.

Quote:
Snoop Dogg has been criticised for shooting a toy gun at a Donald Trump character in a music video.

Florida Senator Marco Rubio said the rap star was unwise to pretend to shoot a clown dressed as the US president in the video.

Mr Rubio told TMZ: "If the wrong person sees that and gets the wrong idea, you could have a real problem."

The video, featuring Snoop Dogg and Kaytranada, is a remix of Lavender by Canadian group BadBadNotGood.

Mr Rubio added: "Snoop shouldn't have done that.

"We've had presidents assassinated before... so anything like that is something people should be really careful about."

The video shows Snoop shooting the Trump character with a gun that releases a flag with the word "bang" written on it.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-39268735
izzythepush
 
  2  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:19 am
Quote:
Former US defence secretary and BBC world affairs analyst William Cohen says President Donald Trump's wiretapping allegations against Barack Obama are "unpresidential" and harmful to his administration's credibility.


He adds that the US image abroad has been negatively affected by Mr Trump's unverified claims.

"I think we're seeing the US portrayed as a circus," Mr Cohen told the BBC's Katty Kay and Christian Fraser.


Well yes. Follow the link for the interview.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39269899<br />
revelette1
 
  2  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:20 am
@izzythepush,
Actually, I agree with Rubio on this. It was the same as when Sara Palin put cross hairs (correct term, maybe I should look it up?) on democrats. It encourages violence.
giujohn
 
  -2  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:22 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Quote:
Former US defence secretary and BBC world affairs analyst William Cohen says President Donald Trump's wiretapping allegations against Barack Obama are "unpresidential" and harmful to his administration's credibility.


He adds that the US image abroad has been negatively affected by Mr Trump's unverified claims.

"I think we're seeing the US portrayed as a circus," Mr Cohen told the BBC's Katty Kay and Christian Fraser.


Well yes. Follow the link for the interview.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39269899<br />


Ah yes...And the British political system is a paragon of governmental efficiency. People in glass parliaments.........
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layman
 
  -1  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:23 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

I don't think it likely that MSNBC broke the law by releasing the tax returns, however, I wonder if the White House releasing the same tax returns BEFORE Maddow's show aired, gives her protection.

I mean, if you take the stance that publishing the tax returns is illegal unless you have permission....and then the white house gives permission by releasing them BEFORE the news can publish it, then how can the news media break the law by showing something that the white house just released?


Yeah. Suppose some guy is blackmailing you, threatening to make public private, secret, information about your affairs. He demands that you pack $100,000 into a suitcase and deliver it to him at midnight.

You go to the police, tell them the whole tale, and they stake out the place. When you deliver the money, they couldn't POSSIBLY arrest him for blackmail, because the information is no longer secret, right?
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camlok
 
  0  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:28 am
@giujohn,
Quote:
I'm still waiting for that socialist Bernie


People who have no grasp at all of the principles of various political systems should just simply repeat right wing talking points that they have had drilled into their heads.

The US military is a communist organization. It is a commune, where everything is taken care of for the masses, the masses have no say, their heads are filled with 24 hours a day propaganda, ... .

I'll let someone else explain to john the intricacies of things he doesn't understand [and won't even read]

Quote:
What many of the answers fail to provide is a MODERN understanding of socialist principles. With very few exceptions, long gone are the days of exclusively government-controlled collectivist systems that many fear mongerers routinely invoke in context of the 1950s Red Scare. And while Wikipedia is a robust resource for literal definitions, "capitalism", "socialism", "welfare state" and "mixed economy" are neither mutually exclusive nor final categorizations; there is a great deal of cross-pollination that renders these rigid labels less definitive (remember that many such labels persist only in service of ideological fundamentalism).

A "mixed economy", in context of the United States, is just saying that it's a capitalist economy functioning within a democratic socialist infrastructure. Commerce wouldn't make a dime were it not for A TAXPAYER-FUNDED SYSTEM that protects assets (shared police, fire, municipal services, and the courts), that enables commerce (shared roads, bridges, rail, air, sea, FDIC-insured banks, the post office, and the regulations that govern them), that protects consumers (OSHA, EPA, FTC, FDA, FCC, etc.--effectively all government regulations covering citizen interaction with business), and that promotes enterprise (the teaching of said economics in higher education institutions, government regulation of interest rates and minimum wage, printing currency, bankruptcy courts, etc.).

There is no more concrete evidence of this democratic socialist infrastructure than in the 2008 government bailouts, a.k.a. the "Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008". The capitalist chest-thumpers will necessarily contest this characterization, but when a government must step in--using the public's money--to keep the "capitalist" system solvent, well, you know who's wearing the pants. The rest is spin and semantics.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-socialism-in-the-United-States?share=1
layman
 
  -1  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:37 am
@camlok,
Churchill summed up what socialism is about without all the horseshit, eh?

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
giujohn
 
  -1  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:38 am
The fact of the matter is for the last 8 years and especially the last two years the IRS has been under the control of a democratic administration who was none too shy about using the power of the IRS to screw with conservatives on the right. But in that time if Donald Trump had done something illegal or untoward with his taxes, don't you think given that so far these career leftists working with in government agencies who hate Trump and have no compunction to violate the law would have already leaked all this damaging evidence suspected by the paranoid foaming at the mouth liberal press?

This ongoing fake news is a ******* dodge by the MSN to jeopardize​ Trump's efforts to stimulate the economy into a 3-4% growth. Because they know if he does, it's curtains for the democratic party and there goes the presses relevancy.

How ******* pathetic is that?
izzythepush
 
  4  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:41 am
@revelette1,
At the time I remember Republicans banging on about freedom of speech. Rubio would have a lot more credibility had he criticised Palin back then.
giujohn
 
  -2  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:44 am
The idiots on the left are now screaming that Trump leaked his own tax records.

Now if that's true why are they belly aching, isn't that what they've been asking for all along?
layman
 
  -3  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:47 am
History has kinda given communism a bad name, so commies don't call themselves that anymore. Now they call themselves "progressives."

Not exactly appropriate for one of the most regressive creeds on the market, eh?

They're so self-righteously enamored of their scurrilous bullshit that they think they are gaining converts to their perverted, corrupt ideology.

They aint. They're just showing their ass to more and more people who are then repulsed by them. They're dead, they just don't know it yet.
camlok
 
  0  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:48 am
@layman,
So you think it's a good thing to quote a war criminal. What does PolPot say about socialism? How about all the USA's brutal right wing dictators, what do they have to say about socialism?
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camlok
 
  0  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:50 am
@layman,
Have you noticed how you and guijohn have completely ignored the arguments put forward?

Have you noticed how you and guijohn do that a lot?

layman
 
  0  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:52 am
@camlok,
camlok wrote:

Have you noticed how you and guijohn have completely ignored the arguments put forward?

Have you noticed how you and guijohn do that a lot?


I heard your "truther" arguments long before you came down the pike, Cammie. Sorry, I aint buyin. Or any other sane person, either, for that matter.
giujohn
 
  0  
Wed 15 Mar, 2017 09:53 am
In response to those who have never served of day in the US Military and as someone who has served six years in the United States Army I can attest to the fact that while in the military I was on several occasions able to hold my command to the tenant established by George Washington when he said, "When we assumed the Soldier, we did not lay aside the Citizen".
 

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