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hightor
 
  4  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 11:39 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
That is what censorship is, telling others not to like the things you don't like.

No it isn't. Censorship is when a powerful institution, like the government, can intervene and compel the removal of particularly objectionable material. What this group is doing is indicating their disapproval of the content and the methods used by Breitbart. They can't force Breitbart to do anything other than look for new sources of advertising revenue.

You might say they're doing Breitbart a favor. Once all those sneauflake companies pull out, Breitbart will know that the companies (and their customers) that remain will be supportive of Breitbart's campaign of disinformation and phony patriotism.
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blatham
 
  3  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 12:52 pm
@camlok,
Quote:
"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
H. L. Mencken

Indeed. In fact, this is a commonly used recipe. Sarah Palin, through sharing her brain-power, has become a multi-millionaire.
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blatham
 
  6  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:01 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
I think that censorship in any form is wrong.
I don't though think its uses ought to be very narrowly targeted. But what we're talking about here isn't censorship. It is persuasion through putting pressure on the profits of a commercial "information" enterprise (and in this case, one which has an extremely shoddy history).

Quote:
Now, imagine some whacked out religious organization with millions of worshipers were to tell advertisers that if they advertised on CNN they would boycott their goods. How would you feel if those advertisers capitulated?
This happens all the time. Don't buy these records. Don't go to this movie. Don't allow these books in the school library.
blatham
 
  5  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:18 pm
Perhaps my favorite Trumpism ever (well, next to "I can grab their pussies", of course)
Quote:
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
Despite what you hear in the press, healthcare is coming along great. We are talking to many groups and it will end in a beautiful picture!

This guy is going to top Nixon:

"I am not a clown"
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:23 pm
@blatham,
It's amazing that so many people trust this guy called Trump.
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:30 pm
@blatham,
That's mostly BS. Censorship is censorship. If you don't like Breitbart, don't click the link that takes you to that page. I despise commondreams.com (I assume they are still a thing?) so I don't visit their website. I don't try to stop you from going there though and I don't try to stop anyone from advertising there. I don't care if people want to be lied to all the time about everything. That is up to them to figure out if they like the site.

Pussy liberals though want to stop everyone from doing what they hate. No free speech around pussy liberals. No free thinking around pussy liberals. No free press around pussy liberals.

I honestly don't understand why many of you even get out of bed in the morning.
blatham
 
  5  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:32 pm
Quote:
To our colleagues in the United States of America,

At this time of an unprecedented, relentless assault on the free press of the United States by the Trump administration, we Mexican journalists, writers, and publishers stand in solidarity with you as you do your crucial work.

For decades you have stood by us as successive governments and criminal gangs have targeted our press and assassinated our journalists for doing work in the public interest—uncovering crimes and corruption. And so many times we have only known the truth about our own country by reading the stories followed and uncovered in the U.S. press. We urge you to continue to uphold freedom of expression as your society, institutions, and values depend upon it.

You have stood with us during the darkest hours of press freedom in Mexico and, although we never could believe this day would come, we now stand with you.

Most sincerely,

Jennifer Clement
President, PEN International
President Emeritus PEN Mexico
PenAmerica
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camlok
 
  0  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
It's amazing that so many people trust any guy that is a US president.
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camlok
 
  0  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:34 pm
@McGentrix,
Response moderated: Personal attack. See more info.
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blatham
 
  3  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:36 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
I honestly don't understand why many of you even get out of bed in the morning.

In my case, it was because my wife looked too much like you.
McGentrix
 
  0  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:37 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
I honestly don't understand why many of you even get out of bed in the morning.

In my case, it was because my wife looked too much like you.


Lucky man.
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glitterbag
 
  3  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:41 pm
@blatham,
Wow, you do like to live dangerously, don't you?
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:43 pm
@glitterbag,
I think he just makes sure there is nothing in the house that can be used as a weapon. Wink
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blatham
 
  5  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:43 pm
Yes, yes, yes and yes again
Quote:
Republicans are trying to destroy the very idea of neutral judgment

We need to talk about the Congressional Budget Office. But before you click away from what you assume will be a dreadfully boring discussion of arcane legislative procedures, let me assure you that there’s something larger going on in this argument, one that gets to the heart of where the Trump administration and Republicans are taking our entire political system. So stick with me.

In their weirdly accelerated effort to pass a repeal and replacement for the Affordable Care Act, Republicans bypassed normal procedures by not waiting for the CBO to “score” their bill before passing it through its first committee vote, which happened after 4 a.m. Thursday. There isn’t any mystery about why they’re in such a rush: They’re scared that the CBO score will say that their bill will lead to massive numbers of Americans losing their health coverage, increases in premiums and out-of-pocket costs, an earlier date at which the Medicare trust fund will be depleted and who knows what else. Once the score is issued, it will probably become a weapon Democrats can use against the bill...
WP
There are many important/critical aspects of the present political scene in the US but this one is right up at the top.
gungasnake
 
  0  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:45 pm
Here is what I see is the problem with the kinds of boycotts which I have been reading about recently. Many of the countries whose name you recognize easily started off as toll unions (Zoll Vereignen); Germany stands out in this particularly. In other words, you started off with trade and good feelings and then work your way into being a nation. The question is, could the process be reversed?

Democracy is a reasonable system for governing a fairly homogeneous group of people with shared ideals and values; it is not a reasonable system for sharing power between two or more groups with nothing in common at all, who simply hate each other. Normally you might think that for a country like the United States to come apart or fragment, that politicians and fatcats would have to be involved. That is, you wouldn’t think that the PEOPLE themselves could accomplish anything like that. Nonetheless, if a country splits into two mutually antagonistic groups which start generally boycotting each other’s businesses and economic systems, can a political split up be far behind?

There would be no shortage of unintended consequences to something like that. There were large numbers of people in 1859 who thought it would be cool to split off from the union. If they had succeeded at it, we could all be working in Nazi coal mines today…
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blatham
 
  3  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:47 pm
@glitterbag,
Yeah, I know. But she's many miles away and probably won't read that. Besides, when we do get together and even though we are now in the "ex" category, I know how to encourage a shift in the parts of her brain where neurons are firing.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:48 pm
@Baldimo,
You are a bigot, and like all bigots it's based on ignorance. Who are you to tell someone who has gone through hormone therapy and surgery what gender they are. Like most hate preachers you know nothing about trans people, about how in utero hormone imbalances are the cause of gender dysmorphia, and how these people are not confused about who they are.

You're not interested in understanding or in letting live and let live. You're into persecuting people based on nothing but hatred and ignorance. Most trans people have a life expectancy of about thirty years because of suicide, assaults and killings by bigots like you.

There's quite a long list of people you hate, all Muslims and now all members of the LGBT community.

You're not even on nodding terms with reality, but you could at least be honest about what sort of hateful bigot you are.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:50 pm
@izzythepush,
I agree, and it's worth repeating:
@Baldimo,
You are a bigot, and like all bigots it's based on ignorance.

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifehack/bigotry-ignorance-and-fear.html
McGentrix
 
  0  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:53 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Yes, yes, yes and yes again
Quote:
Republicans are trying to destroy the very idea of neutral judgment

We need to talk about the Congressional Budget Office. But before you click away from what you assume will be a dreadfully boring discussion of arcane legislative procedures, let me assure you that there’s something larger going on in this argument, one that gets to the heart of where the Trump administration and Republicans are taking our entire political system. So stick with me.

In their weirdly accelerated effort to pass a repeal and replacement for the Affordable Care Act, Republicans bypassed normal procedures by not waiting for the CBO to “score” their bill before passing it through its first committee vote, which happened after 4 a.m. Thursday. There isn’t any mystery about why they’re in such a rush: They’re scared that the CBO score will say that their bill will lead to massive numbers of Americans losing their health coverage, increases in premiums and out-of-pocket costs, an earlier date at which the Medicare trust fund will be depleted and who knows what else. Once the score is issued, it will probably become a weapon Democrats can use against the bill...
WP
There are many important/critical aspects of the present political scene in the US but this one is right up at the top.


This is a good example of the press ADHD for you Farmerman...

For the last 2 months the press has been on the Trump administration about not getting stuff done. "You had 7 years of repeal votes, why no plan?!" The world was on fire with smirky faces about how nothing was getting done and the right was incompetent and they were supposed to repeal and replace and they aren't doing anything.... just endless, relentless blah, blah, blah.

Now it's "What's the rush? why the weirdly accelerated effort to pass a repeal and replacement for the Affordable Care Act?

Do you not see why no one honest listens the media anymore?
blatham
 
  6  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 01:55 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Do you not see why no one honest listens the media anymore?

Again, your media studies diploma is a long way off.
 

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