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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:08 am
@izzythepush,
Years ago, I had a young American girl working for me. She was 18 or 19. I mentioned Adolph Hitler. She didn't recognize the name.
izzythepush
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:14 am
@blatham,
That's worrying. When I was 16 in the CSE History exam there were pictures of Hitler and Mussolini and they had to say which was which. One of the girls I knew referred to them as Hitler and some other bloke.
blatham
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:19 am
Media Matters has a really good compilation of right wing media attacks on the CBO. But we'll just take one contemporary example.
Quote:
"If you're looking at the CBO for accuracy, you're looking in the wrong place,” Spicer said. [The Hill, 3/8/17]


However, earlier we have Spicer and Trump explicitly citing CBO figures
Quote:
Sean Spicer ✔ @seanspicer
Bill gutting #ObamaCare would save half-trillion over a decade, CBO finds@thehill http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/264696-cbo-bill-to-gut-obamacare-would-save-half-trillion-over-a-decade
6:13 PM - 4 Jan 2016

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
CBO now estimates that over 2.5M will lose jobs directly because of ObamaCare. REPEAL now before it is too late.
6:11 AM - 18 Apr 2014
MM

Mind you, I certainly wouldn't want to suggest that these people are careless with the truth.
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hightor
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:21 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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"essential reading"

It really is a good read. It's an objective study of the role of the new and the traditional media in the '16 campaign. They lay out a well-sourced argument and provide plenty of graphs.
Quote:
While concerns about political and media polarization online are longstanding, our study suggests that polarization was asymmetric. Pro-Clinton audiences were highly attentive to traditional media outlets, which continued to be the most prominent outlets across the public sphere, alongside more left-oriented online sites. But pro-Trump audiences paid the majority of their attention to polarized outlets that have developed recently, many of them only since the 2008 election season.

I don't see this sort of thinking as "political" or "ideologically motivated" and I think it's conclusions would be of interest to anyone interested in the way news is accessed and distributed today.

I see people attacking others on this thread for providing links to articles, studies, and essays and insinuating that only a lazy stooge without an original thought in his head would do this. But on a site like a2k where responses quickly get buried when a thread heats up it would be a waste of time to compose, research, and post an original piece of any length or substance. It's easier, more efficient, and more helpful to give a short review with a quote and provide a link. I don't know why this is seen as something to criticize — in fact I've wondered why more of the Republicans here don't provide links to articles of similar scope and depth — instead of obvious crap like this.

Here are some guidelines on assessing the informational value of political articles which can be applied to writing from anywhere along the spectrum:

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1. Compare similarities and differences. The ability to compare similarities and differences among two or more objects, living things, ideas, events, or situations at the same or different points in time. Implies the ability to organize information into defined categories.

2. Identify central issues or problems. The ability to identify the main idea or point of a passage, argument, or political cartoon, for example. At the higher levels, students are expected to identify central issues in complex political arguments. Implies ability to identify major components of an argument, such as reasons and conclusions.

3. Distinguish fact from opinion. The ability to determine the difference between observation and inference.

4. Recognize stereotypes and cliches. The ability to identify fixed or conventional notions about a person, group, or idea.

5. Recognize bias, emotional factors, propaganda, and semantic slanting. The ability to identify partialities and prejudices in written and graphic materials. Includes the ability to determine credibility of sources (gauge reliability, expertise, and objectivity).

6. Recognize different value orientations and different ideologies. The ability to recognize different value orientations and ideologies.

7. Determine which information is relevant. The ability to make distinctions between verifiable and unverifiable, relevant and non-relevant, and essential and incidental information.

8. Recognize the adequacy of data. The ability to decide whether the information provided is sufficient in terms of quality and quantity to justify a conclusion, decision, generalization, or plausible hypothesis.

9. Check consistency. The ability to determine whether given statements or symbols are consistent. For example, the ability to determine whether the different points or issues in a political argument have logical connections or agree with the central issue.

10. Formulate appropriate questions. The ability to formulate appropriate and thought-provoking questions that will lead to a deeper and clearer understanding of the issues at hand.

11. Predict probable consequences. The ability to predict probable consequences of an event or series of events.

12. Identify unstated assumptions. The ability to identify what is taken for granted, though not explicitly stated, in an argument.

Excerpts from reading and writing for civic literacy
blatham
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:21 am
@izzythepush,
Well, I can sort of understand that one. On a bunch of occasions when I've seen a picture or video of Rudy Guiliani, I've said, "There's Mussolini again."
izzythepush
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:27 am
@blatham,
Or Alexei Sayle.

layman
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:28 am
@hightor,
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I've wondered why more of the Republicans here don't provide links to articles of similar scope and depth — instead of obvious crap like this.


Thanks for the informative and entertaining link, eh?

Quote:
Clinton Aide Squeals: ‘Everyone Knew’ About Obama’s Illegal Wiretapping

Hillary Clinton’s former campaign manager Robbie Mook has become the latest Democrat to roll over and squeal on his former comrades, telling Fox News Wednesday that he and everyone else in the Clinton campaign knew Obama was wiretapping Trump Tower.

Anyone who says otherwise is lying to save their skin, Robbie Mook says, as Democrats scramble to clear their names. Democrats ran an arrogant, sloppy spying campaign against Trump because they assumed that a Clinton victory was certain. They didn’t think Trump would ever be in a position to expose their crimes.


Always nice to hear from someone "in the know," eh?
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blatham
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:36 am
@hightor,
Those guidelines are REALLY good. Thanks, hightor! I have some favorites in there (favored because they are so commonly violated) but I won't bother to name them as all are very valuable guides.

The one thing I might add is to gain a familiarity with logical fallacies. The writer(s) here speak to some of the key fallacies but I've found that a direct familiarity with fallacies helps focus on where one's own analyses or another's can go badly astray.
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blatham
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:39 am
@izzythepush,
You Brits. Nothing is sacred to you. Well, except class differentiation, I suppose.
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blatham
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:41 am

From the invaluable ProPublica
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Meet the Hundreds of Officials Trump Has Quietly Installed Across the Government
We have obtained a list of more than 400 Trump administration hires, including dozens of lobbyists and some from far-right media.

A Trump campaign aide who argues that Democrats committed “ethnic cleansing” in a plot to “liquidate” the white working class. A former reality show contestant whose study of societal collapse inspired him to invent a bow-and-arrow-cum-survivalist multi-tool. A pair of healthcare industry lobbyists. A lobbyist for defense contractors. An “evangelist” and lobbyist for Palantir, the Silicon Valley company with close ties to intelligence agencies. And a New Hampshire Trump supporter who has only recently graduated from high school.

These are some of the people the Trump administration has hired for positions across the federal government, according to documents received by ProPublica through public-records requests.
PP
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blatham
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:46 am
Here's a bit of news that makes me very happy indeed.

Colbert's show has now gained the greatest audience share in the late night spot for five weeks running.
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layman
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 07:01 am
Trump said he was going to be tough on crime and, by God, he meant it.

Arrest warrants for every judge on the Appellate Court for the Ninth Circuit are being prepared as we speak.
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blatham
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 07:06 am
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"The president is a neophyte to politics — he's been doing this a little over a year. I think a lot of the things he says, I think you guys sometimes take literally. Sometimes he doesn't have 27 lawyers looking at what he does which I think is t time refreshing and at times can also lead us to have to be sitting at a press conference like this answering questions that you guys are asking." ---Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif.


And in response, Digby writes:
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He went on to say that he thinks tweeting is good and the president shouldn't be attacked for it but that he shouldn't have to be "lawyered up" before he tweets. Apparently it's just accepted by everyone that the president is a childish cretin with no common sense.

Devin Nunes was a member of Trump's transition team and is now the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

So we have congressman who is charged with oversight of the intelligence community excusing the president's lunacy by saying he doesn't know what he's doing and blaming the press for taking him at his word.

This is how far we've gone down the rabbit hole, people.
Digby

Not good. But it is the situation. They have a man who is uneducated and unfit for the office in numerous important ways. Yet, with him in the WH they believe they can achieve other long term goals to drown government and cultivate a stupid and hateful citizenry unlikely to get in their way.
camlok
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 07:10 am
@blatham,
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Digby: This is how far we've gone down the rabbit hole, people.


That isn't anywhereclose, Digby, to how far "we've" gone down the rabbit hole.
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layman
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 07:16 am
Another masterful tactical stroke by Trump. He has the cheese-eaters completely focused on meaningless crap like whether Jeff Sessions ever dated a russian woman, whining 24/7 about it.

They're so pre-occupied that they don't have a clue about what's coming. And they won't, until the minute that the loyal, patriotic para-military forces which Bannon has assembled from every part of this great nation kicks in their door. What happens to them after that aint gunna be nuthin nice, I can tellya that.
blatham
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 07:25 am
I had not heard of this but I very much like it. Breitbart is, of course, an enemy of the people.
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Since the 2016 presidential election, more than 1,400 companies — and counting — have yanked their advertising from the right-wing website Breitbart News, where President Donald Trump’s chief strategist, Steve Bannon, was formerly the editor-in-chief.

The ad removals are the result of consumer backlash spearheaded by the Sleeping Giants, an anonymous collective of progressive activists who organize their protests on social media. The group has been urging people to blitz corporations with wake-up calls about the message the corporations are sending when they advertise on Breitbart, which is known for incendiary content that is frequently unsourced, false, and/or deliberately distorted.
http://www.vox.com/culture/2017/3/8/14700772/breitbart-advertiser-backlash-sleeping-giants
layman
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 07:29 am
@layman,
Bannon has experience leading commando raids, and has learned valuable lessons. Like, for example, don't bother putting flour sacks on your heads, ya know?

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camlok
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 07:29 am
@layman,
Advocating and counselling murder, terrorism, the typical rapes, ... .

Nice guy.
blatham
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 07:35 am
@camlok,
He does that a lot. Trolls push people's buttons. That's part of the game. Put him on ignore and the sky will be brighter.
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layman
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 07:36 am
@camlok,
camlok wrote:

Advocating and counselling murder, terrorism, the typical rapes, ... .

Nice guy.


Ya left out the main ingredient, eh? Torture. And we aint talkin no candyass waterboarding, neither. This will make an Apache raid on settlers look like a sunday picnic by comparison, ya know?
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