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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:22 pm
@ossobucotemp,
Also, Sean Spicer who used to enjoy high regard is now rating in the same league as Trump. According to Politifact, he lies 83% of the time. Sad.
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:30 pm
@ossobucotemp,
Trump is showing more and more how unbalanced he is. I see impeachment in the air.
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:35 pm
This is funny and predictable. The WH and those supporting the Republican healthcare bill do NOT want to label it TrumpCare or to give it a catchy name. Of course, none of these people previously used "ACA" probably ever. "Obamacare" was on every tongue pretty much every time.

Quote:
When asked during the daily White House briefing on Tuesday whether the White House would embrace the House GOP plan as “Trumpcare,” Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price demurred.

“I prefer to call it patient care,” Price said.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer was pressed on the same issue. “We're less concerned with labels right now and more in terms of action and results,” he said.

On Wednesday morning, counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway was also reluctant to commit to any particular nickname for the legislation.

"I'll call it Trumpcare if you want to, but I didn't hear President Trump say to any of us, ‘Hey I want my name on that,’” Conway told Fox News. “We're happy it is the American Healthcare Act. This is serious stuff. This isn't about branding according to someone's name.”
Politico

But as noted further down in the piece, the more radical movement conservative voices in the GOP (Freedom Caucus, Coulter, Ingraham, etc) ARE using such catchy names and using them as derogations, eg Ryancare, Obamacare Lite.

blatham
 
  3  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:37 pm
Well, this happened pretty swiftly.
Quote:
More than half of those who responded to a new Quinnipiac poll released this week said Attorney General Jeff Sessions lied under oath during his Senate confirmation hearings when he said he “did not have communications with the Russians” and should resign because of it.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/poll-should-jeff-sessions-resign-235829

And then there's this.
Quote:
A majority of voters support appointing a special prosecutor to investigate alleged ties between President Donald Trump’s campaign staff and the Russian government, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll conducted in the immediate wake of Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ recusal from any related investigations.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/poll-special-prosecutor-trump-russia-235802
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ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:37 pm
@blatham,
I'd call it what it is, thump thump thump care.
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:41 pm
@ossobucotemp,
But that triple thump suggests a beating heart. I'd suggest that you follow those up with some indicator of a flatline.
ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:44 pm
@blatham,
made me laugh.. I was thinking more of people being punched out by their lousy healthcare.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:44 pm
@ossobucotemp,
Trump care is a disaster; it takes away health care from an estimated 16 million people. I wonder how many of those voted for Trump?
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:47 pm
Quote:
They rarely agree on much, but health care experts on the left, right and center of the political spectrum have found consensus on the House GOP's Obamacare replacement: It won't work.

While their objections vary depending on their ideological goals, the newly introduced American Health Care Act (AHCA) is facing an unrelenting wave of criticism. Some experts warn that the bill is flawed in ways that could unravel the individual insurance market.

The bill, experts said, falls far short of the goals President Donald Trump laid out: Affordable coverage for everyone; lower deductibles and health care costs; better care; and zero cuts to Medicaid. Instead, the bill is almost certain to reduce overall coverage, result in deductibles increasing, and will phase out Obamacare's Medicaid expansion.
NBC

Also, the GOP are pre-emptively working up a campaign to get their followers to doubt any conclusion that the CBO arrives at re costs. And that's because they know full well what the CBO, a bipartisan agency, is going to find.
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:48 pm
@ossobucotemp,
Perhaps ThugCare?
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blatham
 
  3  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:51 pm
I confess I want to strangle these bastards.
Quote:
The Trump administration, searching for money to build the president’s planned multibillion-dollar border wall and crack down on illegal immigration, is weighing significant cuts to the Coast Guard, the Transportation Security Administration and other agencies focused on national security threats, according to a draft plan.

The proposal, drawn up by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), also would slash the budget of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which provides disaster relief after hurricanes, tornadoes and other natural disasters. The Coast Guard’s $9.1 billion budget in 2017 would be cut 14 percent to about $7.8 billion, while the TSA and FEMA budgets would be reduced about 11 percent each to $4.5 billion and $3.6 billion, respectively.

The cuts are proposed even as the planned budget for the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees all of them, grows 6.4 percent to $43.8 billion
WP
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:54 pm
Quote:
Millions of people who get private health coverage through the Affordable Care Act would be at risk of losing it under the replacement legislation proposed by House Republicans, analysts said Tuesday, with Americans in their 50s and 60s especially likely to find coverage unaffordable.
NYT
I understand we are all shocked by this.
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ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:54 pm
@blatham,
Looking up what the acronym CBO means, I just ran across that Obamacare is costing 1/3 less to the government than expected.
ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 01:55 pm
@blatham,
The stupidity is maximizing rapidly. I wonder if it will ever top out.
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 02:01 pm
@cicerone imposter,
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/10/president-trump-and-the-gop-may-cut-health-insurance-for-16-million-people.html
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McGentrix
 
  0  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 02:06 pm
Huh, I thought he's tax Mexican imports and exports and possibly have a tariff added in somewhere until Mexico just decided to say "screw it" and fork over some money. This is an interesting choice.

Of course all this has to get through Congress so we'll see where they decide to get the cash from.
blatham
 
  4  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 02:14 pm
Quote:
E.P.A. Head Stacks Agency With Climate Change Skeptics

...In the days since, Mr. Pruitt, a former Oklahoma attorney general who built a career out of suing the agency he now leads, has moved to stock the top offices of the agency with like-minded conservatives — many of them skeptics of climate change and all of them intent on rolling back environmental regulations that they see as overly intrusive and harmful to business.

Mr. Pruitt has drawn heavily from the staff of his friend and fellow Oklahoma Republican, Senator James Inhofe, long known as Congress’s most prominent skeptic of climate science. A former Inhofe chief of staff, Ryan Jackson, will be Mr. Pruitt’s chief of staff. Another former Inhofe staff member, Byron Brown, will serve as Mr. Jackson’s deputy. Andrew Wheeler, a fossil fuel lobbyist and a former Inhofe chief of staff, is a finalist to be Mr. Pruitt’s deputy, although he requires confirmation to the position by the Senate.
NYT
This is all a direct consequence of what the Koch network has been working on for more than three decades. Koch Industries, on its own regardless of other petroleum and extraction/manufacturing industries, are one of the worst polluters in the US Bloomberg


The very last thing these entities want is a well-informed citizenry choosing who governs them and what that government sets as policies. They really, and I do mean really, have no use for democracy as we understand that term - government of by and for the people.

What they do want, and this is exactly what they work at achieving, is a poorly informed and mis-informed citzenry who will remain unaware that the Kochs and others like them are seeking to effectively take the place of citizen government.

This EPA is a pretty clear piece of evidence at how far they've come in achieving that goal.
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layman
 
  0  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 02:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

I see impeachment in the air.


Hahahaha. Dream on, cheese-eaters.

America First, Baby!
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 02:15 pm
@ossobucotemp,
Quote:
Looking up what the acronym CBO means, I just ran across that Obamacare is costing 1/3 less to the government than expected.

Yes
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blatham
 
  3  
Wed 8 Mar, 2017 02:16 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Huh, I thought he's tax Mexican imports and exports and possibly have a tariff added in somewhere until Mexico just decided to say "screw it" and fork over some money. This is an interesting choice.

Your trust was and is misplaced.
 

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