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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
hightor
 
  5  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 12:36 pm
@gungasnake,
It's pretty obvious what's going on here, right obungasnake?

Not only does Trump plan to repeal, negate, or neutralize every single thing Obama did in his two terms — now he's moving toward retroactive impeachment! In the Trumpean future, when the presidents are listed and we get to 2009-2016 there will just be an asterisk.
revelette1
 
  4  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 12:45 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I just hate it that we (Americans) have to put with this president with all the presidential qualities of a school yard bully who when called before the principle, starts trying to point fingers at other children. We, the voting US public are our own worst enemies.

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blatham
 
  3  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 02:22 pm
I gather that the story coming out of the WH now on Trump's claims about phone tapping is that the WH will not speak about or answer questions on this matter until some investigation is done. But there won't be one, of course.

This was just a propaganda move (not well thought out) to toss out a "story" (truth quite irrelevant) that would hold media attention and divert it from Sessions and from the continuing Russia problem. It is particularly directed towards his base via the right wing media outlets like Fox that serve Trump's and the GOP's purposes.

This sort of deceitful manipulation of information is really doing serious damage to the US internally and internationally. It's not sustainable. Or at least it is not sustainable without the US moving far more away from a functioning democracy and towards a banana republic.
Debra Law
 
  4  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 02:25 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Quote:
WASHINGTON — Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio flew down to Florida with President Donald Trump one day before the president claimed in a series of tweets Saturday that former President Barack Obama wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower prior to the election.

. . . .

Rubio, a member of the Select Committee on Intelligence, also maintained that he's confident in the committee's ability to conduct a fair inquiry into Russia's activities to influence the last election and that a special prosecutor isn't yet necessary.

. . . .


"[Trump] obviously feels very strongly," Rubio said. "He has been accused of things that he hasn't done."



NBC NEWS



Rubio, Trump's weekend traveling companion, announced that his committee can conduct a FAIR INQUIRY. Yet, he has already determined that Trump has been accused of things he hasn't done.

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layman
 
  -1  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 02:46 pm
Quote:
Trump DOES have evidence." ex-CIA agent, on Obama wiretapping Trump

"All of this was part of a coordinated planned campaign by people that are linked to Barrack Obama." There are still senior people in jobs at the Director of National Intelligence office, the office of the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency that ought to be fired, Larry Johnson, retired CIA and State Department official, told RT.

"Both Jim Clapper and John Brennan at CIA were intimately involved in trying to derail the candidacy of Donald Trump. Donald Trump is in essence correct that the intelligence agencies and some in the law enforcement community on the side of the FBI were in fact illegally trying to access and monitor his communication with his aides and with other people. All of this with an end to try to destroy and discredit his presidency."


cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:10 pm
@layman,
We all wonder why he's "ex-CIA."
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layman
 
  -1  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:10 pm
Like, whooda ever thunk, I ax ya!?:

Quote:
Moral Outrage Is Self-Serving, Say Psychologists

New research suggests that professing such third-party concern—what social scientists refer to as "moral outrage"—is often a function of self-interest, wielded to assuage feelings of personal culpability for societal harms or reinforce (to the self and others) one's own status as a Very Good Person.

Ultimately, the results of Rothschild and Keefer's five studies were "consistent with recent research showing that outgroup-directed moral outrage can be elicited in response to perceived threats to the ingroup's moral status," write the authors. The findings also suggest that "outrage driven by moral identity concerns serves to compensate for the threat of personal or collective immorality" and the cognitive dissonance that it might elicit, and expose a "link between guilt and self-serving expressions of outrage that reflect a kind of 'moral hypocrisy,' or at least a non-moral form of anger with a moral facade."


http://reason.com/blog/2017/03/01/moral-outrage-is-self-serving

NOBODY could ever have guessed that this MORAL OUTRAGE was self-serving and self-congratulatory, eh?

Look out, cheese-eaters, the shrinks are onto your game.
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:22 pm
@layman,
Show EVIDENCE.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/02/17/obama-shadow-government-may-working-undermine-trump/
layman
 
  -1  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Show EVIDENCE.


Good advice, Al. Show evidence that Trump had any illegal dealings with Russia, eh? If ya aint got it, then just shut the **** up.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:30 pm
@layman,
That's a diversion from my question. Answer my question first. We can then follow yours.
layman
 
  -1  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

That's a diversion from my question. Answer my question first. We can then follow yours.


What question? Do your own research.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:39 pm
@layman,
From your post:
Quote:
http://reason.com/blog/2017/03/01/moral-outrage-is-self-serving

NOBODY could ever have guessed that this MORAL OUTRAGE was self-serving and self-congratulatory, eh?


The moral outrage is that Trump's approval rating sits at 42% and 55% at disapproval.
If you have to research your own opinion, be my guest.
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jcboy
 
  5  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:40 pm
Obama & Hillary would NEVER do this. It's sleazy beyond words.
Obama & Hillary both took the blame for every casualty. There is no playing around and evading responsibility.

Donald Trump Blames SEAL’s Death On Military: ‘They Lost Ryan’

http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_720_noupscale/58b588ed280000210063100e.jpeg?cache=ymxeqk365u
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:41 pm
@jcboy,
Quote:
POLITICS 02/28/2017 10:28 am ET | Updated 4 days ago
Donald Trump Blames SEAL’s Death On Military: ‘They Lost Ryan’
The buck stops with ‘them.’
By Igor Bobic


Donald Trump is unbalanced. And so is layman.
layman
 
  -2  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:43 pm
The biggest story of the month:



The MORAL OUTRAGE of it all, I tellya!
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:44 pm
@layman,

Trump Approved A Disastrous Military Operation in Yemen
February 1, 2017
BOSTON PUBLIC RADIO
layman
 
  -2  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:


Trump Approved A Disastrous Military Operation in Yemen
February 1, 2017
BOSTON PUBLIC RADIO


Hahahaha. "Disastrous," eh?

Can ya gimme a little first hand personal MORAL OUTRAGE to go with that headline, Al? That would make it even more fun, ya know?
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 03:47 pm
@layman,
THE BLOG 10/31/2016 05:49 pm ET | Updated Nov 01, 2016
Trump And A Psychiatrist’s Views Of Sociopathy And Narcissism
By Robert Klitzman, M.D.

From Scientific American.
Quote:
In recent months a growing number of mental health experts and members of the media have offered opinions on Pres. Donald Trump’s psychiatric fitness. On Tuesday 35 U.S. psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers signed a letter to the editor of The New York Times warning about Trump’s mental health.* Its signatories state—despite a self-imposed ethics rule forbidding psychiatrists from offering professional opinions about public figures they have not personally evaluated—they “believe that the grave emotional instability indicated by Mr. Trump’s speech and actions makes him incapable of serving safely as president.” A number of petitions, including a Change.org petition started by psychologist John Gartner that has garnered more than 20,000 signatures, have called for the chief executive to be removed from office on the grounds he is mentally ill and unfit to perform the duties of president.
georgeob1
 
  -1  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 04:02 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

I gather that the story coming out of the WH now on Trump's claims about phone tapping is that the WH will not speak about or answer questions on this matter until some investigation is done. But there won't be one, of course.

This was just a propaganda move (not well thought out) to toss out a "story" (truth quite irrelevant) that would hold media attention and divert it from Sessions and from the continuing Russia problem. It is particularly directed towards his base via the right wing media outlets like Fox that serve Trump's and the GOP's purposes.

This sort of deceitful manipulation of information is really doing serious damage to the US internally and internationally. It's not sustainable. Or at least it is not sustainable without the US moving far more away from a functioning democracy and towards a banana republic.


What, if any factual information do you have to back up this rather bold asertion?

So far nothing of substance has come out of the supposed Trump conspiracy with Russia. One can make a strong case for the interpretation of that tempest as a mere propaganda move by distraught Democrats (and their hapless candidate) to distract attention from their defeat in the election and their conspiracy to distort both the Democrat primary and the final election campaigns. Both of these conspiracies were revealed, in part, from alleged Russian sources -- along with implications of other national security information hacked from the e mail server in Hillary's basement.

The recent tempest over AG Sessions' Group meeting with Russian. and several other. foreign Ambassadors in company with his then Senate Intelligence Committee was itself nothing more than an effort to distract attention from Trump's successful SOU speech, and doesn't pass the laugh test in comparison with AG Lynch's "entirely appropriate" antics with the earlier Clinton investigation.

In short you are projecting the actual misdeeds of the politicians you favor on their opponents, and doing so without any factual basis for it.

In a similar vein you haven't yet responded to, or even acknowledged, the many environmental lapses of your own country, about which you have said nothing here, even as you have criticized our recent relaxation of truly silly and inconsequential rules for sport fishermen and hunters in wilderness areas in mine - issues that your government has never addressed at all.

You are merely a highly partisan propagandist who uses whatever material you can find to advance your views of optimal policy in another country, doing so without regard to very prominant differences between what you advocate for us and the reality in Canada, and doing all this without much apparent interest or understanding of either the substance of the issues you raise, or the situation in your own country.

You like to present yourself as some sort of political savant, expert in our politics and history. Apart from your evident close attention to various opinion blogs and magazines I'm not aware of any meaningful experience or education you might have as a basis for all that. Evidently you derive some satisfaction from the odd menagerie of followers who attend your word here. And you do indeed traffic in the self-serving, but rather nutty, moral outrage that Layman pointed out, above. It's OK all with me, but I find it a bit pathetic.

gungasnake
 
  -1  
Sun 5 Mar, 2017 04:03 pm
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/trump-supporters-beaten-bloodied-berkeley/?utm_content=buffereb0e3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=laura_ingraham_buffer

Quote:

People wearing motorcycle helmets, goggles, gas masks, and bandanas punched, hit and pepper-sprayed the Trump backers. They also set off smoke bombs and fireworks, NBC News reported.


 

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