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@oralloy,

The first link you posted is about S.649 — Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013

On your second link, it's about: By Matt Spetalnick and Steve Holland | WASHINGTON
President Barack Obama launched the biggest U.S. gun-control push in generations on Wednesday, urging Congress to approve an assault weapons ban and background checks for all gun buyers to prevent mass shootings like the Newtown school massacre.

That's what is called "common sense legislation." Anyone can still own guns if they don't have a criminal record.

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@oralloy,

I'm not a gofer on your account.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

The first link you posted is about S.649 — Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013

On your second link, it's about: By Matt Spetalnick and Steve Holland | WASHINGTON
President Barack Obama launched the biggest U.S. gun-control push in generations on Wednesday, urging Congress to approve an assault weapons ban and background checks for all gun buyers to prevent mass shootings like the Newtown school massacre.

Both links refer to the same thing. The first linked to the bill in Congress. The second linked to a Reuters article about that very same bill.

cicerone imposter wrote:

That's what is called "common sense legislation."

I don't know why people always refer to civil rights violations as common sense.

But calling a civil right violation common sense does not in any way lesson the violation.

cicerone imposter wrote:

Anyone can still own guns if they don't have a criminal record.

That is incorrect in two ways. First banning assault weapons prevents even law abiding people from owning them.

And second, the Democrats had begun to add huge swaths of normal law-abiding citizens to the list of people prohibited from having guns. Trump's election is the only thing that put a stop to that.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

I'm not a gofer on your account.

Gungasnake posted a link that provided the evidence that you asked for.

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@oralloy,

[quote]“I don’t want to rule out anything”
Trump reiterated the fact that he would be the “last to use nuclear weapons” during an April interview with NBC’s Today show. But he said the option is still on the table. "I don't want to rule out anything,” he said. “I will be the last to use nuclear weapons. It's a horror to use nuclear weapons.” “I will not be a happy trigger like some people might be,” he added. “But I will never, ever rule it out.”[/quote]

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@cicerone imposter,

The first time I ran into Oraloy it was, I think, about bombing Japan. I don't remember all the conversation.

My father was head of photo for the Bikini bomb tests, I was a kid.

Guess my views.

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@ossobucotemp,

I worked with conventional, nuclear and thermonuclear bombs in the air force. I enlisted into the air force because I knew that enlisted were support while the officers did the war.
During our initial training period, they showed us the bomb tests at Bikini and New Mexico. It was amazing to see the improvements made on those bombs during the short four years I was in the air force. We no longer had to man handle the uranium to load onto the bombs.
Scary back then, even scarier now.

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@cicerone imposter,

Quote:

“I don’t want to rule out anything”
Trump reiterated the fact that he would be the “last to use nuclear weapons” during an April interview with NBC’s Today show. But he said the option is still on the table. "I don't want to rule out anything,” he said. “I will be the last to use nuclear weapons. It's a horror to use nuclear weapons.” “I will not be a happy trigger like some people might be,” he added. “But I will never, ever rule it out.”

Of course. That is what any responsible president would say.

To rule out the use of nuclear weapons would eliminate our nuclear deterrent.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

I worked with conventional, nuclear and thermonuclear bombs in the air force. I enlisted into the air force because I knew that enlisted were support while the officers did the war.

If I could relive my life I'd enlist in the Air Force right out of high school and spend the full 20 years doing routine maintenance on nuclear bombs.

I'm such a fan of them it'd be my dream job.

cicerone imposter wrote:

It was amazing to see the improvements made on those bombs during the short four years I was in the air force. We no longer had to man handle the uranium to load onto the bombs.

Some improvements were also setbacks. There was a very good reason why they kept the fissile pit out of the bomb unless it was about to be used. Doing so gave 100% prevention of an accidental nuclear explosion.

Once designs got so precise and fine tuned that the pit couldn't be manually removed and inserted anymore, safety took a big step backwards. There were two occasions where we came VERY close to nuking ourselves with our own bombs.

That is ultimately why they scrapped the continuous flights of bombers over North America and started leaving all the bombers on the runways with the engines running. There is something about coming a hair's breadth from nuking yourself that puts the Fear Of God into you I guess.

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@cicerone imposter,

We differ.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

I enlisted into the air force because I knew that enlisted were support while the officers did the war.

I remember an old saying that I'm sure is an oversimplification, but at the same time probably has a bit of truth in it.

In the Army the officers say "Men, go storm that hill."

In the Marines the officers say "Men, follow me up that hill."

In the Navy it's "We're all in this together."

In the Air Force the enlisted men wave and say "Have fun at the war sir!"

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@oralloy,

There's another one about the word "secure"

Tell the Air Force to secure a building and they bomb it into oblivion.

Tell the Marines to secure a building and you get a major amphibious landing.

Tell the Army to secure a building and they establish a perimeter.

Tell the Navy to secure a building and they turn out the lights, lock the doors, and go home.

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@oralloy,

It was a time in my life when I had no future plans or prospects unlike my siblings who knew what they wanted to do. I moved to Chicago hoping to start a new life, but after about a year, I wasn't making any progress.
That's when I decided to enlist into the Air Force. It was the best choice I could have made, because they assigned me to work with nuclear weapons. It told me I couldn't be too dumb if they can trust me to work with nukes. After basic training, everybody in my squadron got their marching orders to their next assignment, but I was held back at the basic training base. When I received my order to my next base, my friends told me that the FBI were asking about me. They were doing a background check on me for a Top Secret clearance to work with nukes.
In the four years working with nukes at three different bases, I never ran into another Asian working in this field. I made E4 in 14 months which usually takes 36 months. It was a good experience for me, but I was happy to get my discharge while stationed at Walker AFB in New Mexico. My commander told me he would give me another stripe if I stayed in, but I wouldn't have stayed for two more stripes.
Our son was in the Air Force for 13 years and made the rank of Major. He was a weapons officer, and directed the pilots where to drop their bombs.

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@oralloy,

It's almost impossible to have an accidental nuke implosion. There are safety features that makes accidents impossible.

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@oralloy,

It's almost impossible to have an accidental nuke implosion. There are safety features that makes accidents impossible.
There are over 31000 nuke weapons in our arsenal today. There's never been an accident.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

It's almost impossible to have an accidental nuke implosion. There are safety features that makes accidents impossible.
There are over 31000 nuke weapons in our arsenal today. There's never been an accident.

There has never been an accidental nuclear explosion.

There have been many accidents where there was no nuclear explosion.

There were two accidents where we came very very very close to having an accidental nuclear explosion on US soil. (And they were the BIG nukes too.)

Thankfully while most of the safety features failed completely in those two accidents, one single safety feature held and the bombs didn't go off. But that one safety feature that held in those two accidents, had a history of failing. It just didn't happen to fail those two times.

Once the government realized how incredibly close we came to nuking ourselves, they immediately halted the continuous bomber flights over North America and instituted a rule against airborne nukes outside of an actual nuclear war (this is the rule that was violated about 10 years ago when a crew forgot to remove the warheads from old cruise missiles before they were flown across the country to the place where they were to be dismantled).

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Spicer arranged calls to push back on Russia stories: Report

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White House press secretary Sean Spicer reportedly arranged calls between outside officials and reporters to dispute media reports that Trump campaign officials had contacts with Russia intelligence officials before the election.

Axios reported Monday that Spicer connected the outside officials with reporters and then stayed on the line for the conversations.

The officials included CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Senate Select Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.), Axios reported, citing a senior administration official.

The phone calls were in reference to a New York Times report that said Trump campaign aides and associates were in touch with Russian intelligence officials during the campaign.

Spicer reportedly connected the officials to reporters from The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal. During the calls, journalists were told the story wasn't true but weren't given details.

"Both of them said: All I can tell you is the story is not accurate," an official told Axios.

The Washington Post reported last week that the Trump administration used senior members of the intelligence community and Congress to attempt to discredit the Russia stories.

The report came after CNN reported that the FBI rejected a recent request by the White House to dispute the media reports that Trump campaign officials had contact with Russian intelligence officials before the election

Boy, they are working this "fake news" hard. The more they try to disprove the reports, the guiltier they look.

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When did libtards and demmunists all become russophobes??

The military/industrial complex (which our last totally good president prior to Donald Trump warned us against) wants Russia as a permanent adversary for one reason: Russia is the only potential adversary which could theoretically justify the fat-cat pocket-lining technologies which serve no real military purpose (new aircraft carriers, billian-a-plane F35 jet fighter which would likely lose a dog-fight to a P-51 etc. etc.)...

Question is, why would a libtard or a snowflake want to be part of that ****???

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@gungasnake,

at least when we wwnt around killing our brothers, e armed both ides. My entire family escaped Tsrist Russia because they were JEWS.

Donut eaters like you are still working on standing upright.

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@hightor,

last week was a very disappointing week for trump news, i need a daily fix of buffoonery from the buffoon in chief

step it up Trump and your flying helper monkeys, get those feet firmly planted in mouths and entertain me

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