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Builder
 
  -3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 01:36 am
So, the declass on "obamagate" begins.

Gotta wonder why it's been left so late.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 01:51 am
@Builder,
The question is rather why much of what has been made public so far has been heavily redacted.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 01:53 am
@Builder,
just another baseless right wing conspiracy theory. Trump[gate, on the other hand....... It's gotten him impeached. Twice. A record he''s likely to hold for lifem (life in a federal pen....)
oralloy
 
  -4  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 01:55 am
@MontereyJack,
Outlawing the Democratic Party will put an end to these abuses of power.

And let's see about having Mr. Biden break that record. Let's see if we can impeach Mr. Biden five times in a row.

We can have the first two years of Mr. Biden's presidency occupied with Mr. Trump's second trial, then the last two years of Mr. Biden's presidency occupied with Mr. Biden's repeated trials.
BillW
 
  3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 02:08 am
@roger,
I agree with you. It really does get screwy when reading the requirements. There are two:

Treason is "the highest of all crimes"—defined as intentionally betraying one’s allegiance by levying war against the government or giving aid or comfort to its enemies.

So, the "levying war" appears to not have the "aid to enemies" portion of the requirement.

Proof of treason requires:

In order to prove treason, the prosecution needs either a confession or two witnesses testifying to the same “overt act” by the defendant. An overt act is an act that shows criminal intent and furthers the accomplishment of a crime. But, the overt act doesn’t have to be a crime itself. A wide range of actions can qualify as overt treasonous acts, from making online posts to providing weapons and ammunition. The key consideration is whether the defendant took the action with the intention of carrying out or furthering treason.

Could the actions of 01/06/2021 be described as "War"?
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Builder
 
  -3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 02:27 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
The question is rather why much of what has been made public so far has been heavily redacted.


Redacted by whom, Walter? And for what reasons?
hightor
 
  3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 03:35 am
a rather ignorant person recently wrote:
A blind man on a galloping horse can see that Biden had more staff than supporters, and that's still the case.

Here we observe something made plainly obvious to all — this member's sheer ignorance of the election process. The winner is chosen by comparing the total number of votes the candidates receive. The size of their respective campaign rallies is totally immaterial. This misunderstanding has been repeatedly parroted by Trump dead-enders. Interestingly, there were Sanders supporters in the Democratic primaries who held the related misconception that the winner is the candidate who amasses the greatest number of small donations — nope, the person with the highest vote total is the winner.
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Builder
 
  -3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 03:36 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
just another baseless right wing conspiracy theory.


Actually it's well documented that Obama set his "hounds" onto Trump before Clinton lost her bid for the presidency.

In an unprecedented act (in the history of the nation) after Trump promised to use his power to expose the crimes of the Obama/Clinton admin, a series of actions took place under the direction of Obama, to spy on, and wire-tap the Trump team.

I have no doubt that you were either sound asleep during this time, or, like the rest of the nation, assumed that Clinton was a shoo-in for the job of extending their criminal reign, so they wouldn't have to answer to anything they'd done.

Buckle up, Dorothy, coz Kansas is going bye-bye.
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hightor
 
  3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 04:15 am
a copy editor wrote:
In an unprecedented act (in the history of the nation) a presidential candidate's campaign committee sought and received material from a foreign government in the hope it could be used in the election.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 05:14 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
Redacted by whom, Walter? And for what reasons?
Well, someone or some people who published it.
If I'd known the reason, btw, I wouldn't have asked.
Walter Hinteler
 
  7  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 05:18 am
An anti-tax group funded primarily by billionaires has emerged as one of the biggest backers of the Republican lawmakers who sought to overturn the US election results, according to an analysis by the Guardian.
Billionaires backed Republicans who sought to reverse US election results
Quote:
The Club for Growth has supported the campaigns of 42 of the rightwing Republicans senators and members of Congress who voted last week to challenge US election results, doling out an estimated $20m to directly and indirectly support their campaigns in 2018 and 2020, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.

About 30 of the Republican hardliners received more than $100,000 in indirect and direct support from the group.

The Club for Growth’s biggest beneficiaries include Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz, the two Republican senators who led the effort to invalidate Joe Biden’s electoral victory, and the newly elected far-right gun-rights activist Lauren Boebert, a QAnon conspiracy theorist. Boebert was criticised last week for tweeting about the House speaker Nancy Pelosi’s location during the attack on the Capitol, even after lawmakers were told not to do so by police.

Public records show the Club for Growth’s largest funders are the billionaire Richard Uihlein, the Republican co-founder of the Uline shipping supply company in Wisconsin, and Jeffrey Yass, the co-founder of Susquehanna International Group, an options trading group based in Philadelphia that also owns a sports betting company in Dublin.

While Uihlein and Yass have kept a lower profile than other billionaire donors such as Michael Bloomberg and the late Sheldon Adelson, their backing of the Club for Growth has helped to transform the organization from one traditionally known as an anti-regulatory and anti-tax pro-business pressure group to one that backs some of the most radical and anti-democratic Republican lawmakers in Congress.
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Builder
 
  -2  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 05:22 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Well, someone or some people who published it.
If I'd known the reason, btw, I wouldn't have asked.


Mystery plus then? Thanks for your input.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 05:28 am
@Builder,
Certainly you have a better knowledge of the Trump appointees - I just can get what has been published the last months:
Trump tweeted on October 6: "I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!"

His chief of staff, Mark Meadows, then argued Trump's tweet was not about allowing the nation to see the documents; rather, it was about Attorney General William Barr's being able to release them.

And Associate Deputy Attorney General Bradley Weinsheimer wrote in a filing with Judge Reggie Walton, who had ordered DOJ to clarify its position after the president's tweets: "The White House Counsel's Office informed the Department that there is no order requiring wholesale declassification or disclosure of documents at issue in this matter."
Builder
 
  -3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 05:33 am
@Walter Hinteler,
And are you happy with that response, Walter?
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 06:04 am
@Builder,
Beside your question, I don't see a response to my post.

But be assured: my happiness is not influenced by any response here.
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Region Philbis
 
  3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 06:07 am

over one hundred rioting maga-animals have been arrested so far.

the FBI is very good at finding them...
Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 06:11 am
@Region Philbis,
Good thing the rioters helped the FBI by incriminating themselves online.

The Capitol rioters generated the evidence that will be used against them

Quote:
Kevin Lyons was arrested Wednesday in Chicago, one of scores of individuals apprehended after having allegedly stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

Lyons’s arrest was not exactly a masterpiece of detective work. According to the Justice Department, Lyons posted on Instagram a map of the route from his home in Illinois to D.C., a photo of the exterior of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office and provided FBI agents with videos he’d recorded within the Capitol building. Lyons, nonetheless, marveled at the ability of federal agents to scoop up the information that showed his presence in the building, expressing his surprise they’d found the photo of Pelosi’s office because it “was up for only an hour.”

If it’s any consolation to Lyons, others probably have similarly learned about the FBI’s facility with gathering digital evidence that’s posted on the Internet. Two Virginia police officers also were arrested Wednesday after one posted a selfie of the two of them posing inside the Capitol. The enormous volume of photos and videos capturing the events at the Capitol made it fairly easy for investigators either to identify alleged participants or to generate numerous wanted posters highlighting various people believed to have been involved in the riot.

One of the software tools used by some of those who participated in the riot was Parler, a social media site that was taken offline after Amazon, which had been providing infrastructure for the network, cut Parler off for failing to moderate its content. Before that happened, though, a programmer identified as donk_enby managed to pull down and archive most of the site’s content — including videos and photos taken in and around the Capitol on Jan. 6.

After making that data public, an informal collection of researchers has pored over it, organizing it by location and date and sharing videos from the scene. The result is videos like this one, uploaded by Bellingcat.

That is a video of a guy talking about having gone inside the Capitol, holding a shield he clearly obtained from the Capitol Police. He uploaded the video to Parler himself, apparently, ending the clip with the tagline “thanks for watching” — a common sign-off for live-streamers. He recorded a video, in other words, admitting to a crime and shared it online for the entertainment of other people.Like, say, FBI agents.

Using the Parler data (as helpfully collated by Tommy Carstensen), you can see how Jan. 6 unfolded. President Trump gave a speech at the Ellipse south of the White House about noon. As he spoke, people began heading to the Capitol. By 2 p.m., it was being overrun.

As The Washington Post reported last week, the infrastructure of the Capitol itself will make it much easier to identify participants in the riot. It’s a large stone building, constructed well before things like wireless phone signals were something to consider. So it has its own cellular infrastructure, recording pings from nearby phones as they automatically seek to maintain connectivity.

It’s certainly possible that some of those inside the Capitol that day weren’t aware that they were violating the law. But there were any number of rioters who would have been hard-pressed not to know that, given that they were climbing through broken windows or, in some cases, breaking windows to get inside. And they were surrounded by people filming what was going on and uploading what they saw to social media.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/14/capitol-rioters-generated-evidence-that-will-be-used-against-them/
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 06:15 am
Donald Trump will not be visiting Scotland ahead of inauguration day, the PA news agency understands.
Prestwick Airport was told to expect the arrival of a US military Boeing 757 aircraft previously used by Trump on 19 January, according to the Sunday Post. But the first minister Nicola Sturgeon has in recent days stressed it is illegal to travel in or out of Scotland without a valid reason.
The Scottish justice secretary Humza Yousaf also suggested the Home Office should consider denying Mr Trump entry to the UK after he leaves office.
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farmerman
 
  2  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 06:17 am
@Rebelofnj,
the conservative "mind" is all about symbolism. They couldnt play a hecker game with a rabbit because they cant think one move ahead.

This was Trump's Brain trust.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Fri 15 Jan, 2021 06:38 am
Rioters wanted to ‘capture and assassinate’ lawmakers, prosecutors say
Quote:
In a court filing late on Thursday, federal prosecutors in Phoenix wrote that “strong evidence, including Chansley’s own words and actions at the Capitol, supports that the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States government.”

The 18-page memo, which asked a judge to keep Chansley detained before his trial, said the 33-year-old Arizona man left an ominous note for Vice President Pence at his desk in the Senate chamber: “It’s only a matter of time, justice is coming.”


United States of America vs. Jacob Anthony Chansley, a.k.a. “Jacob Angeli”
 

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