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But you don't care about freedom, we do.

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But you don't care about freedom, we do.

I don't know man. There are plenty of countries with much more restrictive firearms laws and those people don't look like they're enslaved or suffering under the tyrant's yoke. And there are places where lots of people carry weapons around, places where I don't really want to live — like Guatemala, Chechnya, and Somalia.

My point, Baldimo, is that you don't need modern military-styled weapons to protect yourself in the case of a home intrusion. Maybe in the case of a zombie apocalypse but not to protect the cash register at the local bodega. The "militarized" guns being sold today are marketed specifically for that purpose — to pander to a certain type of customer:

That's a claim that arises frequently in the modern right. georgeob gives voice to it regularly. "Freedom" or "liberty" have only one proper definition or description and it is the one held by McG and georgeob. Which, one has to acknowledge, is highly convenient.

I haven't seen my local militia in action lately, but I don't see why they couldn't train with surplus M-14s. Firearms can last a long time before they become obsolete.

When it comes to arms, we see qualitative limits — no machine guns, no suppressors, no bazookas etc, without special permits. The "right" has been infringed:

The fact is, if the justices see that social conditions warrant it, this 5-4 decision can be reversed.

"Styled" means it looks like the real thing. When a cop confronts someone brandishing a .38 he'll behave differently than when someone's carrying a military look-alike.

For self-defense I don't see why anyone would need more than 9 or 10 rounds which is what most semi-auto pistols hold.

And much of that banning talk is spread by the pro-gun side.

Maybe the gun manufacturers can start making guns that look friendlier, like those pink ones they market to women.

All freedoms are balanced against how it impacts others freedoms McG. I care about freedom, I just apparently have a different view on how it impacts others (versus how little I'd really be impacted).

I don't know man. There are plenty of countries with much more restrictive firearms laws and those people don't look like they're enslaved or suffering under the tyrant's yoke. And there are places where lots of people carry weapons around, places where I don't really want to live — like Guatemala, Chechnya, and Somalia.

If people don't have the right to have guns suitable for self defense, they are not free

That's a claim that arises frequently in the modern right. georgeob gives voice to it regularly. "Freedom" or "liberty" have only one proper definition or description and it is the one held by McG and georgeob. Which, one has to acknowledge, is highly convenient.

What does freedom or liberty mean, other than the absence of external restriant? In the case of politics the reference is usually to the absence of constraints imposed by government or law. If you have a different definition in mind please specify it.
There is no uncertainty or convenience associated with it.

But are we safe?

I recall om sig when asked if hed come to my aid, and he said no bcause he wasnt affected.
Wow.

oralloy, to save you the effort, I don't give a rat's ass about pistol grips.

If someone can use a hip-fired weapon effectively I don't see an objection. I don't see why demonstrated competence shouldn't be an accessory to the right to keep and bear a firearm.

...In other words, people close to Trump tend to characterize him as a powerful, petulant child.

A new Politico report, quoting sources from Trump's 2016 campaign team, only helps reinforce the thesis.

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President Donald Trump's former campaign staffers claim they cracked the code for tamping down his most inflammatory tweets, and they say the current West Wing staff would do well to take note.

The key to keeping Trump's Twitter habit under control, according to six former campaign officials, is to ensure that his personal media consumption includes a steady stream of praise. And when no such praise was to be found, staff would turn to friendly outlets to drum some up -- and make sure it made its way to Trump's desk.

It's a fascinating dynamic: while placating and distracting Trump sounds exhausting, it also sounds incredibly easy. According to these campaign staffers, the Republican's ego was routinely bruised by coverage that hurt his feelings, but aides discovered they could quickly make him feel better by planting favorable stories in conservative outlets and then showing them the reports they helped create.