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Rebelofnj
 
  5  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 10:43 am
AG Barr Will Not Name A Special Counsel To Investigate Election Fraud

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Attorney General Bill Barr said Monday during a press conference that he will not name a special counsel to investigate President Trump's allegations of widespread or systemic election fraud, saying he does not think it would help.

"If I thought a special counsel at this stage was the right tool, I would name one, but I haven't and I'm not going to," he said.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/12/21/bill_barr_will_not_name_a_special_counsel_to_investigate_election_fraud.html
Rebelofnj
 
  5  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 10:53 am
Undercutting Trump, Barr says there’s no basis for seizing voting machines, using special counsels for election fraud, Hunter Biden

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Outgoing Attorney General William P. Barr said Monday he saw no basis for the federal government seizing voting machines and that he did not intend to appoint a special counsel to investigate allegations of voter fraud — again breaking with President Trump as the commander in chief entertains increasingly desperate measures to overturn the election.

At a news conference to announce charges in a decade old terror case, Barr — who has just two days left in office — was peppered with questions about whether he would consider steps proposed by allies of the president to advance Trump’s claims of massive voter fraud.

Barr said that while he was “sure there was fraud in this election,” he had not seen evidence that it was so “systemic or broad-based” that it would change the result. He asserted he saw “no basis right now for seizing machines by the federal government,” and he would not name a special counsel to explore the allegations of Trump and his allies.

“If I thought a special counsel at this stage was the right tool and was appropriate, I would name one, but I haven’t, and I’m not going to,” Barr said.

Similarly, Barr said he would not name a special counsel to investigate Hunter Biden, President-election Joe Biden’s son who revealed earlier this month he was under investigation for possible tax crimes. Barr said the investigation was “being handled responsibly and professionally” by regular Justice Department prosecutors, and he hoped that would continue in the next administration.

“To this point, I have not seen a reason to appoint a special counsel, and I have no plan to do so before I leave,” Barr said.

The comments are likely to further erode what is already a significantly damaged relationship between Barr and Trump.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/undercutting-trump-barr-says-theres-no-basis-for-seizing-voting-machines-using-special-counsels-for-election-fraud-hunter-biden/ar-BB1c72sE
BillW
 
  2  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 12:13 pm
@Rebelofnj,
May I add one very important thing, Barr also came in on the side of Pampano and said Russia did the cyber attack on our infrastructure!
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 12:41 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

AG Barr Will Not Name A Special Counsel To Investigate Election Fraud

Quote:
Attorney General Bill Barr said Monday during a press conference that he will not name a special counsel to investigate President Trump's allegations of widespread or systemic election fraud, saying he does not think it would help.

"If I thought a special counsel at this stage was the right tool, I would name one, but I haven't and I'm not going to," he said.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/12/21/bill_barr_will_not_name_a_special_counsel_to_investigate_election_fraud.html

It is AG Barr, not President Barr. Trump is going to have to do what he can to get around the bureaucracy that clearly does not want to help. Very sad.

Keep in mind Barr is gone Wednesday and Trump will have a new acting AG.
neptuneblue
 
  3  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 12:48 pm
@coldjoint,
Going around the law is breaking the law.

Although, Trump has much experience with that sort of thing.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 12:54 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

Going around the law is breaking the law.

Although, Trump has much experience with that sort of thing.

Then why isn't Adam Schiff in jail? Do not talk about law when Democrats have **** on the rule of law every chance they have gotten.
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 12:56 pm
@coldjoint,
But what happens if acting AG Rosen also agrees with Barr and doesn't apppoint any special counsel? Will Trump continue to fire the Attorney General until he gets what he wants?
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 12:58 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

But what happens if acting AG Rosen also agrees with Barr and doesn't apppoint any special counsel? Will Trump continue to fire the Attorney General until he gets what he wants?

Trump will do what he wants. I do not know who can stop him. Do you? He has presidential power until Jan 20th.
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 01:06 pm
@coldjoint,
You know who stopped Trump? The American public when we voted him out.
Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 01:10 pm
@coldjoint,
Presidential power does not mean unlimited power. There are still checks and balances at play between the three branches of government.

It is already clear that Congress (the Democrat controlled House and McConnell's Senate) and The Supreme Court are not going to help with Trump's fraud allegations, and the military has stated repeatedly that they will not be involved in any election related activities. So what Trump can actually do is limited at this point.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 01:59 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

You know who stopped Trump? The American public when we voted him out.

They dd not vote him out there was massive fraud. Why won't Democrats let the machines be audited? That is like admitting guilt. Just because the media will not report on all the evidence of fraud does not mean it does not exist.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 02:01 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Presidential power does not mean unlimited power. There are still checks and balances at play between the three branches of government.

It is already clear that Congress (the Democrat controlled House and McConnell's Senate) and The Supreme Court are not going to help with Trump's fraud allegations, and the military has stated repeatedly that they will not be involved in any election related activities. So what Trump can actually do is limited at this point.

So you approve of a stolen election. Americans do not. Trump will be this country's last legitimate president. It is all downhill after that.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 02:08 pm
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Trump Officially NOT Conceding! Merry Christmas, America!

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Merry Christmas, America! What we always knew would happen has now actually happened. Dan Scavino, the Techy-Techy Social Media Geek for the White House, shared on Facebook (to thunderous emoji applause) that the Winner of the Election would not be conceding.

Naturally!

But still...it's a great day for America and for the World.
It's a sorry state of affairs when the actual winner of the election has to fight like Hell for his win but alas, thanks to ridiculous extent of Mr. Biden and Mrs. Harris election fraud machine, this is the case.

According to The National Pulse, "The Trump campaign filed a petition for writ of certiorari to the US. Supreme Court aimed at reversing a trio of Pennsylvania Supreme Court cases that 'illegally changed Pennsylvania’s mail balloting law immediately before and after the 2020 presidential election.' "

Taking a cue from the Court's cowardice in refusing to hear the Texas case a week ago, The National Pulse writes, "The filing alleges the action was “in violation of Article II of the United States Constitution and Bush v. Gore.”

So here's the million dollar question: Will SCOTUS, especially Chief Justice John "Screaming" Roberts accept the case or will he use his position of trust to double-down on his phone call where he stated, "the mother f##ker would never be re-elected."

https://www.lenorathompsonwriter.com/beyondnarcissism/trump-officially-not-conceding-merry-christmas-america



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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 02:22 pm
At Georgia rally, Ivanka Trump appears to acknowledge Biden’s win
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White House senior adviser Ivanka Trump on Monday appeared to acknowledge that Biden won the presidential race, going further than other members of the president’s family have previously on the issue.

At a campaign rally for Republican Sens. David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler in Georgia, the president’s daughter said that if Democratic nominees Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock win the Jan. 5 Senate runoff, Democrats will control the Senate.

She called the two Republican senators the “last line of defense against this agenda.”

Ivanka Trump’s comments came as her father continued to tweet false claims of election fraud. President Trump on Monday morning blamed top Georgia officials for not agreeing to his demands.

“What are these RINOS hiding?” Trump said, using an acronym for “Republican in name only.” “We will easily win Presidential State race.”

Later, the president retweeted a video of Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) voicing support for Trump’s legal efforts in remarks on the Senate floor.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 02:24 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Presidential power does not mean unlimited power. There are still checks and balances at play between the three branches of government.

It is already clear that Congress (the Democrat controlled House and McConnell's Senate) and The Supreme Court are not going to help with Trump's fraud allegations, and the military has stated repeatedly that they will not be involved in any election related activities. So what Trump can actually do is limited at this point.

They are not just Trump's allegations. Americans by the hundreds came forward. The fact is that the courts want to **** on the citizens too. Calling their testimony not credible is an insult. Withholding the voting machines from forensic audits is admitting guilt.
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farmerman
 
  3  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 02:31 pm
@coldjoint,
learned that at "TRUMP UNIVERSITY" here for lunch every day they serve you a "TRUMP STEAK" where proceeds and profits fo to "Trump Charities"
farmerman
 
  2  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 02:32 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:

So you approve of a stolen election. Americans do not


Thats self revealing and thats why we voted him out.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 02:41 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:

So you approve of a stolen election. Americans do not


Thats self revealing and thats why we voted him out.

He was not voted out. Release those machines for audits and prove it. That is all it would take. You should want it done.

Trump won't release his taxes, Democrats won't allow an audit. Trump is already guilty by hiding his taxes. That means the Democrats are also guilty by refusing to allow audits using your standards.
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 02:44 pm
@coldjoint,
He was voted out.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Mon 21 Dec, 2020 02:49 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

He was voted out.

Saying so hardly makes it true. There are mountains of evidence and over half the nation knows it. Biden will only be considered legitimate when those machines are audited and show no fraud. Without that he is not the president, he is an fraudulently appointed nobody.
 

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