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BillW
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:28 am
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

She deals in roubles!!

....or, is it yen this month, I forget🤔
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:29 am
@farmerman,
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11, known as Rule 11, requires that those making cases in court must not be doing so "for any improper purpose, such as to harass, cause unnecessary delay, or needlessly increase the cost of litigation". It also requires that "the claims, defenses, and other legal contentions are warranted by existing law or by a nonfrivolous argument".
farmerman
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:36 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
There was clearly fraud in the swing states.
52 cases filed by Plump's minions have all gone against him for lack of facts evidence (Affidavits are NOT evidence. The court will ALWAYS ask, "well, can you prove that??")

In all cases th answer has been NO. Ya think that those facts (mostly arrived at by honest folks of the States' GOP leadership) should be figured in the courts deliberation? Or shall they just BUY the crap being thrown out there by Rudy or others???

I think facts and evidence are still the most important stuff to consider when such important legal decisions are made. Apparently you dont give a **** as long as your el duce's name is behind it all.

By stealing this election Plump will have taken us in a big step to becoming the fascist "paradise" that you and Ollie wish to live within, and in which McG can practice his child molestation untethered.
hightor
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:39 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Godwin's law.

Hate to inform you, but it's from 1941, long before the existence of the worldwide web.

Your ignorance is a constant source of amusement. But if you really want to apply internet culture to something that was created seventy years ago you're just showing your ignorance yet again as you obviously didn't know that Godwin himself suspended his "law" (which is actually just a humorous observation):

Quote:
By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.
— Mike Godwin (@sfmnemonic) August 14, 2017


izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:39 am
@farmerman,
A lot, farthings are old money, there were four of them in an old penny, 1d.

And there were 240 of them to the pound which means 960 farthings to the pound.

I’m not going to bother with exchange rates, but you get the picture.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:45 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Or shall they just BUY the crap being thrown out there by Rudy or others???

And Americans are supposed to buy the impossible spikes in Biden votes after counting was stopped and the resumed? They are suppose to think ballots are hidden under tables as a matter of protocol?

There is more than enough evidence to prove fraud. Why is a MI judge blocking the results of a the forensic audits from becoming public? If that is not an admission of guilt I do not know what one is.

Quote:
Apparently you dont give a ****

That is you who does not give a **** about election integrity or this country.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:47 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
Godwin's law.

Hate to inform you, but it's from 1941, long before the existence of the worldwide web.

Your ignorance is a constant source of amusement. But if you really want to apply internet culture to something that was created seventy years ago you're just showing your ignorance yet again as you obviously didn't know that Godwin himself suspended his "law" (which is actually just a humorous observation):

Quote:
By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.
— Mike Godwin (@sfmnemonic) August 14, 2017




Quote:
Your ignorance is a constant source of amusement.

That goes both ways. I have been laughing at you for years.
farmerman
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:50 am
@coldjoint,
you really have no fuckin idea about what you are even talking about. "Spikes occur when data is entered into tally , you dipshit" IN ALL CASES the paper backup matched the vote tallies. In fact, when the 3rd count was done , biden picked up 86 votes in one of the states



ALL THAT STUFF HAS BEEN DEBUNKED AS A BUNCH OF TRUMPIAN LIES.

4 of the 5 states entered a rebuke of the TEXAS case and you feel that you know better. The other state (AZ hasnt spoken yet)


farmerman
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:54 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
That is you who does not give a **** about election integrity or this country.
I like the word "INTEGRITY"

PLUMP comes down to Ga and swears the ekection was a fraud, yet exhorts all GOP voters to vote for the GOP candidates in the runnoff. In one case its a fraud in another it aint.
HOW CAN YOUKEEP A STRAIT FACE??? ARE YOU THAT STUPID OR ARE YOU TRYING TO BELIEVE THAT THE DEMS ARE STUPID???
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:57 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
ALL THAT STUFF HAS BEEN DEBUNKED AS A BUNCH OF TRUMPIAN LIES.

No it has not. Show me one graph of those spikes that has been proven wrong. Those graphs are based on data available to everyone and nothing will change them. But go ahead and prove what you have said. I'll wait.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:59 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
I like the word "INTEGRITY"

A lot of people like what they don't have.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 12:00 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

BillW wrote:

She deals in roubles!!

....or, is it yen this month, I forget🤔

The Democrats are literally in bed with the Chinese. Try again.
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farmerman
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 12:00 pm
@coldjoint,
Only you are hanging your hopes on a bunch of disproven statements and outright lies by Trump and his clown posse of lawyers and bogus "witnesses" (One of whom , makes his own gravy).
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 12:01 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11, known as Rule 11, requires that those making cases in court must not be doing so "for any improper purpose, such as to harass, cause unnecessary delay, or needlessly increase the cost of litigation". It also requires that "the claims, defenses, and other legal contentions are warranted by existing law or by a nonfrivolous argument".

We have nine SCOTUS judges, we do not need or value your opinion.
farmerman
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 12:01 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
I like the word "INTEGRITY"

A lot of people like what they don't have
Thats why I reminded you of what you lack. You like the sound of it but have it NOT
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 12:04 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Only you are hanging your hopes on a bunch of disproven statements and outright lies by Trump and his clown posse of lawyers and bogus "witnesses" (One of whom , makes his own gravy).


The hate you have for Americans trying to do the right thing is very sad. No one is going to unite with people so full of hate.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 12:06 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:
I like the word "INTEGRITY"

A lot of people like what they don't have
Thats why I reminded you of what you lack. You like the sound of it but have it NOT

I have more integrity in the dirt under my fingernails than you and your ilk will ever have.
farmerman
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 12:10 pm
@coldjoint,
if you say so pinky. However, no bragging, I probably know and understand the rules of evidence ten times over that which you and Ollie boast
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hightor
 
  4  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 12:12 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
I have been laughing at you for years.

Thanks for illustrating my point. You have nothing of substance to offer. You post bogus stories and back them up with more fake news when challenged. When your ignorance and obvious bias is pointed out you resort to childish, and ineffective, ad hominem attacks.

Earlier in the week you treated us to this specious claim:
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Dr. Cicchetti is the former Deputy Director at the Energy and Environmental Policy Center at Harvard University’s John Kennedy School of Government and received his Ph.D. in economics from Rutgers University.

According to Dr. Cicchetti, his calculations show the probability of Joe Biden winning the popular vote in the four states independently given President Trump’s early lead in those States as of 3 a.m. on November 4, 2020, is less than one in a quadrillion.

Here, educate yourself:
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The suit uses statistical arguments that experts called ‘comical.’

Mr. Paxton’s filing repeatedly cites an analysis by an economist in California that statisticians have said is nonsensical. Mr. Biden’s chances of winning the four battleground states in question, the analysis says, were “less than one in a quadrillion.”

The economist, Charles J. Cicchetti, who donated to Mr. Trump’s campaign in 2016, arrived at the minuscule probability by purporting to use the results of the 2016 election as a backstop. His flawed reasoning was this: If Mr. Biden had received the same number of votes as Hillary Clinton did in 2016, he wrote, a victory would have been all but impossible.

But Mr. Biden, of course, did not receive the same number of votes as Mrs. Clinton; he received over 15 million more. Nor would any candidate be expected to receive the same number of votes as a previous candidate.

That one-in-a-quadrillion figure has echoed across social media and was promoted by the White House press secretary. But an array of experts have said that the figure and Mr. Cicchetti’s analysis are easily refutable.

Stephen Ansolabehere, a professor of government at Harvard University who runs its election data archive, called this analysis “comical.”

The analysis omitted a number of obvious, relevant facts, he said: “the context of the elections are different, that a Covid pandemic is going on, that people reach different conclusions about the administration, that Biden and Clinton are different candidates.”

By the same logic and formula, if Mr. Trump had received an equal number of votes in 2020 as he did in 2016, there is also a one in a quadrillion chance that Mr. Trump in 2020 would outperform his totals in 2016, said Stephen C. Preston, a professor of mathematics at Brooklyn College. “But that doesn’t prove Trump cheated, it just shows that the numbers are different,” he said. “It’s like finding a low probability that 2 equals 3.”

Mr. Cicchetti also wrote that votes counted earlier in the process and votes counted later favored different candidates, and that there was “a one in many more quadrillions chance” that votes counted in the two time periods were coming from the same groups of voters.

But that is exactly what was expected to happen: Democrats tended to prefer voting by mail, and those ballots were counted later in the four battleground states, while Republicans tended to prefer voting in person on Election Day, and those ballots were counted earlier.

“The order and tempo of vote counting was unlike previous elections,” said Amel Ahmed, a professor of political science at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

What Mr. Cicchetti wrote was not especially revelatory, experts agreed.

“The model is silly,” said Philip Stark, a professor of statistics at the University of California at Berkeley. “This is not science or statistics. It’s not even a good cartoon of elections.”


Trump lost. Deal with it.

hightor
 
  4  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 12:19 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
I have more integrity in the dirt under my fingernails than you and your ilk will ever have.

The fact that you would even post something like this shows that you don't even know what "integrity" means. Maybe you can explain how your fingernail detritus exhibits "adherence to moral and ethical principles" — we're all waiting. Well?
 

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