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Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 03:58 pm
U.S. Supreme Court Rejects GOP Bid To Halt Joe Biden’s Pennsylvania Win

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The Supreme Court has rejected Republicans’ last-gasp bid to reverse Pennsylvania’s certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory in the electoral battleground.

The court without comment Tuesday refused to call into question the certification process in Pennsylvania. Gov. Tom Wolf already has certified Biden’s victory and the state’s 20 electors are to meet on Dec. 14 to cast their votes for Biden.

U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly, a Butler Republican, and Republican congressional candidate Sean Parnell said most of those who voted by mail in Pennsylvania should have had their votes disqualified. That would have given the state to President Donald Trump.

Kelly and Parnell said Pennsylvania’s Legislature did not have the authority under the state Constitution to pass no-excuse voting by mail. When the state Supreme Court said they were too late to raise that argument, Kelly and Parnell appealed to the United States Supreme Court.

Voting by mail was approved by the Republican-controlled legislature in 2019.

Biden won 306 electoral votes, so even if Pennsylvania’s results had been in doubt, he still would have more than the 270 electoral votes needed to become president.


https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/12/08/u-s-supreme-court-rejects-gop-bid-to-halt-joe-bidens-pennsylvania-win/
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:01 pm
Quote:
Pence to decide race? Law profs say VP allowed to 'count' electoral votes
Under this theory, vice president could reject ballots that remain under challenge

Got to love that.
Quote:
An analysis by two prominent law professors published before the election concluded that if Electoral College votes remain in dispute after they are counted in Congress, the vice president, as presiding officer of the joint session, could choose not to allow certain disputed votes.
The scenario isn't entirely remote, with lawsuits challenging the results in six states and the possibility the U.S. Supreme Court could weigh in.

John Yoo of California-Berkeley and Robert J. Delahunty of St. Thomas University wrote in an analysis published Oct. 19 by the Claremont Institute that Vice President Mike Pence can refuse to count some of the votes if they remain disputed.

The professors concluded that the "constitutional structure" favors President Trump if Election Day "fails to result in a clear winner."

They cited the "unprecedented" circumstance of the COVID-19 pandemic on the election and envisioned a scenario in which "Trump appears to be the winner on the morning after Election Day, but a 'blue wave' begins in the days and weeks after, and Biden claims a belated, overtime victory."


You have not beat Trump yet. The Constitution has safeguards against this kind of bullshit.
https://www.wnd.com/2020/12/pence-decide-race-law-profs-say-vp-allowed-count-electoral-votes/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
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glitterbag
 
  3  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:03 pm
How stunningly obsequious
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:04 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

U.S. Supreme Court Rejects GOP Bid To Halt Joe Biden’s Pennsylvania Win

Quote:
The Supreme Court has rejected Republicans’ last-gasp bid to reverse Pennsylvania’s certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory in the electoral battleground.

The court without comment Tuesday refused to call into question the certification process in Pennsylvania. Gov. Tom Wolf already has certified Biden’s victory and the state’s 20 electors are to meet on Dec. 14 to cast their votes for Biden.

U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly, a Butler Republican, and Republican congressional candidate Sean Parnell said most of those who voted by mail in Pennsylvania should have had their votes disqualified. That would have given the state to President Donald Trump.

Kelly and Parnell said Pennsylvania’s Legislature did not have the authority under the state Constitution to pass no-excuse voting by mail. When the state Supreme Court said they were too late to raise that argument, Kelly and Parnell appealed to the United States Supreme Court.

Voting by mail was approved by the Republican-controlled legislature in 2019.

Biden won 306 electoral votes, so even if Pennsylvania’s results had been in doubt, he still would have more than the 270 electoral votes needed to become president.


https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/12/08/u-s-supreme-court-rejects-gop-bid-to-halt-joe-bidens-pennsylvania-win/

Then the SCOTUS will not interfere when the legislature appoints Trump electors.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:05 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

How stunningly obsequious

Not one clever bone in your body. A typical government worker. Born to follow.
Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:11 pm
@coldjoint,
You did seem to pin your hopes on Justice Alito and the 3 Trump appointed judges on hearing the case in the last few days, but they ultimately declined to hear it.

And there is no changing the electors in Pennsylvania:

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President Donald Trump called the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives twice during the past week to make an extraordinary request for help reversing his loss in the state, reflecting a broadening pressure campaign by the president and his allies to try to subvert the 2020 election result.

The calls, confirmed by House Speaker Bryan Cutler's office, make Pennsylvania the third state where Trump has directly attempted to overturn a result since he lost the election to President-elect Joe Biden. He previously reached out to Republicans in Michigan, and on Saturday he pressured Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp in a call to try to replace that state's electors.
...
"The president said, 'I'm hearing about all these issues in Philadelphia, and these issues with your law,' " said Cutler spokesman Michael Straub, describing the House speaker's two conversations with Trump. " 'What can we do to fix it?' "

Cutler told the president that the legislature had no power to overturn the state's chosen slate of electors, Straub said.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/trump-pennsylvania-electoral-college-vote-20201207.html
Brand X
 
  2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:12 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Brad Heath
@bradheath
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6m
Replying to
@bradheath
The court issued this order within minutes of Kelly's reply brief showing up on the docket. This case was never going anywhere, despite some strenuous wishcasting on the right.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:14 pm
@Rebelofnj,

Quote:
And there is no changing the electors in Pennsylvania:

That guy does not know what the Constitution says. The legislature has plenary power.
snood
 
  3  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:19 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

glitterbag wrote:

How stunningly obsequious

Not one clever bone in your body. A typical government worker. Born to follow.


This is pretty rich, coming from someone who thinks Trump farts eau de cologne.
Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:20 pm
@coldjoint,
The spokesman for Republican House Speaker Bryan Cutler does not know the Constitution?
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:24 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

The spokesman for Republican House Speaker Bryan Cutler does not know the Constitution?

Apparently not.
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This is in accord with federal law as well. Section 2 of Title 8 provides: “Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct.” 3 U.S.C. § 2. The intermingling of illegal with legal ballots in significant enough numbers that the election cannot be validly certified, means that the State “has failed to make a choice” on election day, and the appointment of electors therefore devolves back on the Legislature of the State, which has plenary power to decide whether to exercise that appointment power itself, or to craft some other mechanism for appointing the State’s slate of electors.

Look up "plenary".
https://americanmind.org/memo/the-constitutional-authority-of-state-legislatures-to-choose-electors/
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:26 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

coldjoint wrote:

glitterbag wrote:

How stunningly obsequious

Not one clever bone in your body. A typical government worker. Born to follow.


This is pretty rich, coming from someone who thinks Trump farts eau de cologne.

Nothing of value comes from people who enable criminals. They hate this country and individual freedom.
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Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:33 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
The intermingling of illegal with legal ballots in significant enough numbers that the election cannot be validly certified, means that the State “has failed to make a choice” on election day, and the appointment of electors therefore devolves back on the Legislature of the State, which has plenary power to decide whether to exercise that appointment power itself, or to craft some other mechanism for appointing the State’s slate of electors.


So does this mean that if Pennsylvania does not certify the election results, then the state legislature can change its electors?

I just want that cleared up before proceeding.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:42 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Quote:
The intermingling of illegal with legal ballots in significant enough numbers that the election cannot be validly certified, means that the State “has failed to make a choice” on election day, and the appointment of electors therefore devolves back on the Legislature of the State, which has plenary power to decide whether to exercise that appointment power itself, or to craft some other mechanism for appointing the State’s slate of electors.


So does this mean that if Pennsylvania does not certify the election results, then the state legislature can change its electors?

I just want that cleared up before proceeding.

They can change them even if it is certified. They have the absolute power.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:47 pm
Quote:
Disclose.tv
🚨
@disclosetv
BREAKING - U.S. Supreme Court will hear Texas' lawsuit against Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin over potential voter fraud. The case was added to the Supreme Court docket today.

One door shuts, another one opens.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eovhm9UWEAMhs8C?format=jpg&name=small

Quote:
Zero Hedge confirms this, noting that once a case is put on the docket, that means it will be heard. So Texas is off to a great start!

https://therightscoop.com/breaking-supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-texas-election-case-suing-four-states/
BillW
 
  2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:49 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

U.S. Supreme Court Rejects GOP Bid To Halt Joe Biden’s Pennsylvania Win

Quote:
The Supreme Court has rejected Republicans’ last-gasp bid to reverse Pennsylvania’s certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory in the electoral battleground.

The court without comment Tuesday refused to call into question the certification process in Pennsylvania. Gov. Tom Wolf already has certified Biden’s victory and the state’s 20 electors are to meet on Dec. 14 to cast their votes for Biden.

U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly, a Butler Republican, and Republican congressional candidate Sean Parnell said most of those who voted by mail in Pennsylvania should have had their votes disqualified. That would have given the state to President Donald Trump.


https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/12/08/u-s-supreme-court-rejects-gop-bid-to-halt-joe-bidens-pennsylvania-win/


9-0 zero dissenters!!!!!!!!!!!

This is Alito's case that cj was so positive was going to go to theRump. Nope, nada - the biggest loser in the history of the great US of A loses the last. Have fun in prison Rumpty Dumpty!
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:50 pm
@coldjoint,
It is possible that the House Speaker may be aware of that ability, but is refusing to use such ability due to the extremely tight schedule left before the December 14 date. Nothing suggests that the electors will change in less than 6 days.

Pennsylvania did certify the results 2 weeks ago, but there was no serious talk of changing the electors in the past two weeks.
Brand X
 
  2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:55 pm
Brad Heath
@bradheath
·
25m
Meanwhile, over on planet-Parler, the Supreme Court's decision is being met (as many things there are) with calls for martial law and armed insurrection.
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BillW
 
  2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 04:55 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Today is Safe Harbor day. The last day a state legislature can step into the Electoral College vote game - they have just 6 hours!
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Tue 8 Dec, 2020 05:01 pm
@coldjoint,
As a heads up, just because a case is in the docket, it does not automatically mean that the case would be heard by the court.

Here is the official number for the just rejected Pennsylvania case by Rep. Mike Kelly.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/20a98.html
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