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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 10:21 am
I have and had some problems understanding the use of "Arizona legislature", especially since just more than a dozen current and future Arizona Republican lawmakers attend what would be here a private meeting.

Legislatures here are the sole power to create laws, called 'parliament'.
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Brand X
 
  2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 11:02 am
@MontereyJack,
Now it's going to pivot to a judicial conspiracy.

48 of 49 fails.

But Trump is planning a 2024 campaign announcement party on Biden's inauguration day to lift cj's spirits.....then at the 11th hour in 2023 Trump will announce he won't run, if not before.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 11:05 am
@oristarA,
She is frmale:

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NSFW (view)
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 11:49 am
Quote:
No, The Georgia Vote-Counting Video Was Not ‘Debunked.’ Not Even Close

Quote:
On Friday morning, a group called Lead Stories published a “hoax alert” falsely claiming to have debunked the security video. The Washington Post, Newsweek, and other outlets followed along, criticizing non-leftist journalists for giving the video traction. In fact, none of the claims made by the Republicans were debunked.

Lead Stories’ “fact” “check” says government officials told them everything was fine with the counting, that the ballots were in “containers — not suitcases,” and that “party observers were never told to leave because counting was over for the night.”

Leaving aside whether relying solely and uncritically on government officials’ claims constitutes anything close to a “fact” “check,” let’s look at the claim that party observers were never told that counting was over for the night. In Lead Stories’ regurgitation of the government officials’ claims, only the people who cut open the absentee ballot envelopes were sent home, while ballot counters and scanners were retained and kept working — and no one told the press or other observers they were done counting.

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Screen-Shot-2020-12-07-at-1.52.32-AM.png
https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/07/no-the-georgia-vote-counting-video-was-not-debunked-not-even-close/
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 11:50 am
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:

Now it's going to pivot to a judicial conspiracy.

48 of 49 fails.

But Trump is planning a 2024 campaign announcement party on Biden's inauguration day to lift cj's spirits.....then at the 11th hour in 2023 Trump will announce he won't run, if not before.

Nothing is over yet, and it will not be until Trump says so. Deal with it.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 11:55 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

"It has all gone too far!"
-Gabriel Sterling, a Republican official who is the voting system implementation manager in Georgia, speaks out against President Trump's baseless claims of voting fraud.



Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/us/politics/georgia-election-trump.html



Sterling is a Trump hater. He has made that more than clear in past statements and actions. More garbage from the NYT. Next.
Quote:

Gabriel Sterling anti Trumper exposed in Tweets, 2016: ” This must be about stopping Trump”, #NeverTrump, Blames everyone but himself & Dominion

https://citizenwells.com/2020/12/07/gabriel-sterling-anti-trumper-exposed-in-tweets-2016-this-must-be-about-stopping-trump-nevertrump-blames-everyone-but-himself-dominion/
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 11:58 am
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Arizona legislature closes after Giuliani spent two days with maskless GOP lawmakers

Quote:
For more than 10 hours last Monday, President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudolph W. Giuliani, convened in a Phoenix hotel ballroom with more than a dozen current and future Arizona Republican lawmakers to hear testimony from people who supposedly witnessed election fraud.

Giuliani and other attendees were shown maskless and not social distancing, and the Arizona Republican Party tweeted an image of Giuliani and lawmakers flouting guidelines to restrict transmission of the novel coronavirus.

That defiance of public health advice came to a head on Sunday when Trump announced on Twitter that Giuliani had contracted the coronavirus. Hours later, legislative staff in Arizona’s Capitol abruptly announced a week-long closure of the state Senate and House starting on Monday.

Giuliani, Trump’s personal attorney, tests positive for coronavirus, president says

An email announcement to members of the Arizona House said the move was “out of an abundance of caution for recent cases and concerns relating to covid-19” and noted that “no one will have permission to work or meet in the building.”

The Trump campaign later sent out a statement noting that the former New York mayor had “tested negative twice immediately preceding his trip to Arizona, Michigan and Georgia.”

“The Mayor did not experience any symptoms or test positive for covid-19 until more than 48 hours after his return,” the Trump campaign said, noting that “no legislators in any state or members of the press are on the contact tracing list, under current” Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines, which define “close contact” as spending at least 15 minutes within six feet of an infected person within 48 hours of that person feeling ill.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/07/arizona-legislature-closed-covid-giuliani/

This certainly puts a damper on cj's wishes of wanting the state legislatures to appoint new electors to vote for Trump, in time for the Dec 14 vote.

What a joke. How many did Rudy kiss and hug? Fear mongering and distraction from the massive fraud that took place. Of course the WP has no credibility, take that into consideration.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 11:59 am
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:

Whiners shall inherit the earth.

Hope they save rooms for the trolls, or you are **** out of luck. :lol: Laughing Laughing
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Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 12:07 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Of course the WP has no credibility, take that into consideration.


Except The Washington Post didn't make up this news. Every other news outlet (including local Arizona news outlets) is reporting on the Arizona government taking a week break.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-arizona-legislature-electors-rudy-giuliani-coronavirus
https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2020/12/06/giuliani-covid-19-diagnosis-closes-arizona-legislature/
https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2020/12/07/arizona-capitol-closure-ends-quest-overturn-election/3857151001/
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/528990-arizona-legislature-shuts-down-after-giuliani-tests-positive
https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/legislature-closed/75-004d133a-598f-401b-99d8-57054ee8f7c7
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 12:09 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Arizona legislature closes after Giuliani spent two days with maskless GOP lawmakers

Quote:
For more than 10 hours last Monday, President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudolph W. Giuliani, convened in a Phoenix hotel ballroom with more than a dozen current and future Arizona Republican lawmakers to hear testimony from people who supposedly witnessed election fraud.

Giuliani and other attendees were shown maskless and not social distancing, and the Arizona Republican Party tweeted an image of Giuliani and lawmakers flouting guidelines to restrict transmission of the novel coronavirus.

That defiance of public health advice came to a head on Sunday when Trump announced on Twitter that Giuliani had contracted the coronavirus. Hours later, legislative staff in Arizona’s Capitol abruptly announced a week-long closure of the state Senate and House starting on Monday.

Giuliani, Trump’s personal attorney, tests positive for coronavirus, president says

An email announcement to members of the Arizona House said the move was “out of an abundance of caution for recent cases and concerns relating to covid-19” and noted that “no one will have permission to work or meet in the building.”

The Trump campaign later sent out a statement noting that the former New York mayor had “tested negative twice immediately preceding his trip to Arizona, Michigan and Georgia.”

“The Mayor did not experience any symptoms or test positive for covid-19 until more than 48 hours after his return,” the Trump campaign said, noting that “no legislators in any state or members of the press are on the contact tracing list, under current” Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines, which define “close contact” as spending at least 15 minutes within six feet of an infected person within 48 hours of that person feeling ill.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/07/arizona-legislature-closed-covid-giuliani/

This certainly puts a damper on cj's wishes of wanting the state legislatures to appoint new electors to vote for Trump, in time for the Dec 14 vote.

If the election is still disputed in that state that date means nothing.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 12:10 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

FEDERAL JUDGE IN MICHIGAN TOSSES OUT SIDNEY POWELL'S LAWSUIT, THE ONE COLDJOINT HAS TOLD US WILL BLOW THE CASE WIDE OPEN. NO MERIT TO HER ARGUMENT. THE LAST BEST HOPE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THE ELECTIONNT WAS A FRAUD HAS GONE DOWN IN FLAMES.. BIDEN WON. BIDEN WILL BE PRESIDENT

APPEAL. It was an Obama judge.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 12:11 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

MontereyJack wrote:

FEDERAL JUDGE IN MICHIGAN TOSSES OUT SIDNEY POWELL'S LAWSUIT, THE ONE COLDJOINT HAS TOLD US WILL BLOW THE CASE WIDE OPEN. NO MERIT TO HER ARGUMENT. THE LAST BEST HOPE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THE ELECTIONNT WAS A FRAUD HAS GONE DOWN IN FLAMES.. BIDEN WON. BIDEN WILL BE PRESIDENT


Her or his?

Now it is your turn to troll. You guys are a joke.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 12:13 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

 https://iili.io/KCumpp.jpg

Lot of class bringing Melania into it. How about sperm breath Kamala? Think she will be taking her knee pads on the road soon?
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 12:20 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
If the election is still disputed in that state that date means nothing


Arizona have already certified the state's presidential election results last week.

https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/11/30/940184307/arizona-certifies-election-results-affirming-bidens-victory-in-the-state
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 12:22 pm
https://c2.legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/02-Crushing-LI-1080-620x442.jpg
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 12:24 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Quote:
If the election is still disputed in that state that date means nothing


Arizona have already certified the state's presidential election results last week.

https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/11/30/940184307/arizona-certifies-election-results-affirming-bidens-victory-in-the-state

I am getting tired of talking to people who know this election was stolen and are alright with it. You are one them. As I said to another poster here, what does that make you?
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 12:26 pm
A trio of brutal rulings for Trump’s voter fraud push

Quote:
Time is running very short on attempts by President Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020 election. In many ways, it’s already too late. Electors are required to cast their votes for president in each state on Dec. 14, and the “safe harbor” law means states have to resolve any outstanding issues by six days before then. That would be Tuesday.

If the last three days are any indication, the Trump team is about to go out in a blaze of not-exactly-glory.

Key rulings in Georgia and Michigan are the latest setbacks for the efforts, with judges in three cases issuing significant rebukes — a couple of which were scathing. In Georgia, the legal team representing Gov. Brian Kemp (R) and other top officials, including Kemp’s fellow Republicans, filed a brutal response to the continued litigation.

Kemp has been under fire from Trump, including receiving a call from Trump this weekend in which Trump again pressured him to do something to help overturn the state’s election results. The call came shortly before Trump appeared at a rally in the state for the upcoming Senate runoff elections.

Kemp, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan, all Republicans, have repeatedly rebuked the claims made by Trump and his allies. But in a filing the same day as Trump’s rallies, their legal team went quite a bit further.

It described those continuing to contest the election results as “disappointed Republican presidential electors” and took a swing at former Trump attorney Sidney Powell’s repeated allusions to the “Kraken” she was unleashing with her litigation:

Quote:
Plaintiffs, a group of disappointed Republican presidential electors, filed a Complaint alleging widespread fraud in the November general election in Georgia, weaving an unsupported tale of “ballot stuffing,” the switching of votes by an “algorithm” uploaded to the state’s electronic voting equipment that switched votes from President Trump to Joe Biden, hacking by foreign actors from Iran and China, and other nefarious acts by unnamed actors.


The filing then notes the extraordinary relief sought by the lawsuit: the decertification of the election results and replacing the state’s electors for President-elect Joe Biden — “who were selected by a majority of Georgia voters by popular vote as provided by state law” — with Trump electors.
....
Another Georgia lawsuit filed by pro-Trump lawyer L. Lin Wood was also cut short Saturday — thanks in part to two judges Trump has promoted as possible Supreme Court picks.

The ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit was written by Judge William Pryor, who was on Trump’s shortlists of possible justices, and joined in by Judge Barbara Lagoa, who emerged as a finalist for the seat that went to Justice Amy Coney Barrett. They ruled that Wood lacked standing in the case. What’s more, they said that even if he had standing, the case was moot because the state had already certified its election results.

“Wood’s arguments reflect a basic misunderstanding of what mootness is,” Pryor wrote.

Last is a case in Michigan, in which U.S. District Judge Linda Parker issued a scathing denial of a last-ditch effort by the state’s Republicans to decertify that state’s certified results.

Parker noted that the lawsuit could have been filed much sooner than it was, and then goes so far as to suggest it was never meant to succeed — only to undermine faith in the election.

“In fact, this lawsuit seems to be less about achieving the relief Plaintiffs seek — as much of that relief is beyond the power of this Court — and more about the impact of their allegations on People’s faith in the democratic process and their trust in our government,” Parker wrote.

The judge also said the plaintiffs’ case consisted of “nothing but speculation and conjecture that votes for President Trump were destroyed, discarded or switched to votes for Vice President Biden.”

“This case represents well the phrase: ‘this ship has sailed,’ ” Parker wrote.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/07/another-weekend-another-batch-brutal-legal-filings-trump-backed-voter-fraud-effort/
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 12:31 pm
Quote:
Supreme Court Justice Alito Makes BOMBSHELL Move Paving Way To TOSS Biden’s Electoral Votes In PA

Quote:
Supreme Court Justice Alito Makes BOMBSHELL Move Paving Way To TOSS Biden’s Electoral Votes In PA. Alito amended his request for response from PA state lawyers by one day pushing the deadline back before the safe harbor deadline. This means that Joe Biden’s electors could be disputed on December 8th and into the 9th by way of SCOTUS challenge and a lawsuit. Democrats had argued that the previous deadline meant that the lawsuit challenging mail in voting in Pennsylvania was moot. Now if may be exactly what Republicans and Trump need to reject the electoral college votes from PA. Republicans are counting on Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch, and Chief Justice Roberts to give Trump a major win changing the game entirely
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Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Mon 7 Dec, 2020 12:32 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
what does that make you?


To quote a relatively famous film and TV show: I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe
 

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