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oristarA
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 04:44 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

America lost. The Democrats will destroy this country and convince very stupid very low information people to do their dirty work convinced they are saving the world. In reality they are taking the world's last hope of freedom.


Isn't the opposite true? See how Trump has irresponsibly dealt with the current pandemic which leads to the deaths of 249,975 Americans and more than ten million infections. Biden will rejoin WHO and rejuvenate America.
Builder
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 04:58 am
@oristarA,
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which leads to the deaths of 249,975 Americans


Not sure if you're up with the protocol, but this figure is a fabrication, okay?
farmerman
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 05:06 am
@oristarA,
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In reality they are taking the world's last hope of freedom.
with unlimited freedom , lives unlimited responsibility. Thats mostly where you guys have missed the train. Just look at the covid pandemic. You guys play "Russian Roulette" and expect other people to go along with that stupidity. And weve had a president who never really "got it" when it came to leadership skills. He should have read Teddy Roosevelts memoirs about the "use of a bully pulpit" and how a president can thus effect marked and rapid changes in public policy. Boy, this president will stand as a bad example of how that works through the next few centuries. I submit tht omon will coin qord called "Trumping" as a transitive verb implying an executive action or omission that produces really dumb results.
Like "wearing face masks, may be ok , but I wont be wearing one"

A childish response that had HUUUUGE negative consequences.
farmerman
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 05:09 am
@Builder,
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but this figure is a fabrication
and from what "hair-on-fire" right wing blog did you get that?

Th only fabrication may be the implication that the statistics is close to the numbers when its been found by several other countries that most all of the numbers are quite low due to poor testing and asymptomatic transmission of the virus.
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hightor
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 05:19 am
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Not sure if you're up with the protocol, but this figure is a fabrication, okay?

Right, but Pizzagate is true.
oristarA
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 05:29 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

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which leads to the deaths of 249,975 Americans


Not sure if you're up with the protocol, but this figure is a fabrication, okay?


Your attitude exactly reflects Trump's attitude toward COVID-19. Learn to trust CDC and Johns Hopkins:

CDC COVID Data Tracker:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days

Johns Hopkins COVID-19 Dashboard:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

You and Trumps shut your eyes against the painful truth till the siren of COVID 19 transforms the free world into the limbo of ill.
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Builder
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 05:29 am
@hightor,
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Right, but Pizzagate is true.


Dude, spin me some lines.
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Builder
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 05:31 am
@hightor,
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Right, but Pizzagate is true.


The parallel here is the total commitment.

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oristarA
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 05:34 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

with unlimited freedom , lives unlimited responsibility.


Yes. It is common sense. So enjoy freedom wisely and deservedly. Do not trespass.

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oristarA
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 05:37 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:

Not sure if you're up with the protocol, but this figure is a fabrication, okay?

Right, but Pizzagate is true.


Right? I don't understand you. The figure is correct. Do you ignore CDC and Johns Hopkins data as well, like Builder your "enemy"?
farmerman
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 05:45 am
@Builder,
so you just wanna run away from answering my question??

Ok, so pardon me if I say your fulla ****. K??
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hightor
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 05:45 am
@oristarA,
Sorry, oristarA, I thought you'd catch the sarcasm. The rather caustic character who claims the figure is a fabrication regularly posts discredited theories and debunked videos, and a lot of them have to do with pedophilia. And he posts it all with a straight face!

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neptuneblue
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 08:40 am
Trump had a very bad Friday in court with his election cases. They're headed for more action next week

CNN Digital Expansion 2018 Katelyn Polantz
By Katelyn Polantz, CNN

Updated 9:19 AM ET, Sat November 14, 2020

(CNN)Legal experts have been saying for a week now that President Donald Trump's court cases to throw out ballots and turn around his election loss were bound to fail.

Throughout Friday, the failures piled up.

In one day, nine cases meant to attack President-elect Joe Biden's win in key states were denied or dropped, adding up to a brutal series of losses for the President, who's already lost and refuses to let go. Many of the cases are built upon a foundational idea that absentee voting and slight mismanagement of elections invite widespread fraud, which is not proven and state leaders have overwhelming said did not happen in 2020.

In court on Friday:

The Trump campaign lost six cases in Montgomery County and Philadelphia County in Pennsylvania over whether almost 9,000 absentee ballots could be thrown out.

The Trump campaign dropped a lawsuit in Arizona seeking a review by hand of all ballots because Biden's win wouldn't change.

A Republican candidate and voters in Pennsylvania lost a case over absentee ballots that arrived after Election Day, because they didn't have the ability to sue. A case addressing similar issue is still waiting on decisions from the Supreme Court -- which has remained noticeably silent on election disputes since before Election Day.

Pollwatchers in Michigan lost their case to stop the certification of votes in Detroit, and a judge rejected their allegations of fraud.

On top of it all, a law firm leading the most broad challenge in Pennsylvania -- perhaps the most significant state for Trump's post-election fight -- dropped out.

"The Trump campaign keeps hoping it will find a judge that treats lawsuits like tweets," said Justin Levitt, a Loyola Law School professor and elections law expert, on Friday. "Repeatedly, every person with a robe they've encountered has said, 'I'm sorry, we do law here.'"

And yet, lawyers representing Trump, Republicans and voters unhappy with the election's result forge ahead, as part of an increasingly desperate long-shot attempt to swing the Electoral College in Trump's favor, no matter the popular vote and electoral count victory for Biden.

Appeals court rules

The writing is already on the wall for many of the election claims -- and in some ways, already on paper.

The 3rd US Circuit Court of Appeals decided on Friday that the voters and a congressional candidate in Pennsylvania didn't have the ability to sue and had gone to court too close to the election, rejecting their case.

The ruling on Friday also appears to block voters in Delaware, New Jersey and Pennsylvania -- which the court oversees for federal cases -- from making broad, theoretical claims under the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution about the possible dilution of their votes.

"This conceptualization of vote dilution -- state actors counting ballots in violation of state election law -- is not a concrete harm under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment," the court wrote. "Two voters could each have cast a mail-in ballot before Election Day at the same time, yet perhaps only one of their ballots arrived by 8:00 P.M. on Election Day, given USPS's mail delivery process. It is passing strange to assume that one of these voters would be denied 'equal protection of the laws' were both votes counted."

Lawyers representing Republicans in other weak suits since Election Day have tried to make similar constitutional arguments to block Biden's win in states including Pennsylvania.

In one widely noticed case in Pennsylvania, the Trump campaign agreed on Friday night it could no longer push some of the constitutional claims it had wanted to make, nodding to the appeals court ruling from earlier that day.

Blocking the evidence

The campaign and others in the Pennsylvania case are set to appear on Tuesday and Thursday in a federal courtroom in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. There, Judge Matthew Brann, a longtime Republican, will hear arguments on a bold bid to block the state from certifying Pennsylvania's election results -- which could theoretically deprive Biden of his win in the state -- because of supposed unfairness related to voting by absentee ballot. Brann also may hear witness testimony.

But even those attention-getting, trial-like efforts to have witnesses testify haven't gone well for the Trump campaign. In a hearing in Arizona on Thursday that sought to block the certification of votes because of broad allegations of election mishaps, a judge wouldn't consider some witness statements.

"Let me just clarify," Judge Daniel Kiley said. "Your solicitation of witnesses yielded some sworn affidavits that you yourself clearly determined are false and spam, as you phrased it," he asked the Trump attorney in court.
"The ones that you couldn't prove are false you submitted to the court?" the judge said before granting the request of lawyers from Maricopa County to exclude the evidence.

A judge in Michigan on Friday also had a negative reaction to written statements from witnesses.

Judge Timothy Kenny in Wayne County, Michigan, pointed out how poll-watchers who had complaints in court about Detroit's ballot processing hadn't complained earlier or even attended election training where they could have raised questions about practices. He singled out an accusation from a Republican poll-watcher who conjectured that many votes for Biden meant there could have been ballot box-stuffing.

"It is not surprising that many of the votes being observed by [the witness] were votes cast for Mr. Biden in light of the fact that former Vice President Biden received approximately 220,000 more votes than President Trump," Kenny wrote.

Trump and his supporters still seek to block the certification of Biden's win in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania through a patchwork of cases.
One of the latest iterations of these cases comes from a group of voters in Wisconsin. The lawsuit argues that election results in areas Biden won should be invalidated across the state because a data analysis might show some ballots, especially absentee, should not have been counted.

But the lawsuit offers no evidence or even sworn witness statements to back up its assertion that Wisconsin had illegal votes.

In fact, the voters who believe their votes were diluted unfairly admit they have not proven their claims at this time.

"This evidence will be shortly forthcoming when the relevant documents are final and available," the lawsuit promises.
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BillW
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 09:11 am
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oristarA
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 11:17 am
The New York Times tweeted 2h ago:
By some estimates, the U.S. may soon be on track to reach — or exceed — peak coronavirus death levels from the spring, when as many as 2,200 people were dying from the virus every day.

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I observed that new cases of COVID yesterday in the US were more than 190,000, which is twice of the total confirmed cases of COVID in China since last December (China's total confimed cases -including those of Hong Kong, Taiwan and Macao - are 92,409). Take a look at the Trump's rallies and you will know why. To control covid, control Trump first. You know who said this.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 11:43 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

coldjoint wrote:

America lost. The Democrats will destroy this country and convince very stupid very low information people to do their dirty work convinced they are saving the world. In reality they are taking the world's last hope of freedom.


Isn't the opposite true? See how Trump has irresponsibly dealt with the current pandemic which leads to the deaths of 249,975 Americans and more than ten million infections. Biden will rejoin WHO and rejuvenate America.

The governors of the respective states were the irresponsible ones. Cuomo is a good example or Whitmer(?) the governor of Michigan. Trump made sure everyone had a ventilator and fast tracked a vaccine.

The WHO told us what China told them to. They were caught in several lies. You believe the narrative because you refuse to think for yourself. The virus was not Trumps fault it was China's. And the information and the numbers about the virus have never been accurate and it is far too late to change that.

Democrats, like ghouls, used every death to their advantage and stoked the hate that is the real sickness in this country.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 11:47 am
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President of the Federal Election Commission: ‘This election is illegitimate’

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No less than Federal Election Commission President Trey Trainor, during the presidential elections, made a public statement that “there is electoral fraud.”

The evidence that emerged during this week confirms his statements, and now we wait for the courts to act.

In communication with Newsmax TV, Trainor said the presidential elections taking place were illegitimate due to fraud. These comments are alarming coming from the president of the Federal Election Commission.

However, legacy media and social networks delayed reporting his statement for as long as possible. Instead, they announced candidate Biden’s victory even while the vote count was nowhere near certain in his favor.

Trainor, the highest ranking election official, said, in his professional opinion, “there was no transparency in the election,” and therefore, “this election is illegitimate.”

https://m.thebl.com/us-news/president-of-the-federal-election-commission-this-election-is-illegitimate.html
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revelette3
 
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Sat 14 Nov, 2020 11:51 am
Biden asked GOP to give him a chance. They’re not keen.

Not a surprise, also not novel Democrats in 2016 also were not keen to work with Trump. However what strikes me is their total brainwashed arguments of why they reject Biden's win to presidency.

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“We’re willing to accept the results, as long as it’s fair and done correctly and certified correctly,” said Sherrie Strong, another supporter of the president’s. She, like others, took Mr. Trump’s position that it was strange that he had been leading in numerous places because of in-person votes on Election Day, only to be overtaken once mail-in ballots were counted on election night and over the days that followed. (The delay in counting mail-in ballots in several states was because of restrictions imposed by Republican state legislatures.)

“It’s just a little upsetting when you go to bed at night, and all of a sudden, four days later, these votes are magically appearing,” Ms. Strong said.


Do they not think logically? Trump encouraged his supporters not to vote by mail absentee ballots but to come in person. Biden encouraged people to vote with absentee and early voting and every other way to vote. Democrats overwhelmingly voted more in absentee ballots so of course when voting workers were allowed to count those, the numbers would start adding up in Biden's favor rather than Trump's. It is not hard to figure out. I think Trump's die hard voters are ignorant on small their kind of thinking really is in the US and how hard Democrats worked, all democrats, blacks and other minorities, moderates and progressives, worked to make sure Biden won and Trump lost. We managed to get some Lincoln project so to speak republicans to vote for Biden as well.

The problems is keeping that unity up which is already showing signs of breaking up with those various factions fighting for power.

Another annoying and dismaying comment from one of Trump's voters was just disgusting and fulfilled Hillary's characterization of Trump's supporters as deplorable.

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Like Mr. Biden and his supporters, the Smiths saw this election as a battle for the country’s soul. To unify with Mr. Biden would be an admission that the battle is lost, and that the multicultural tide powering his victory will continue its ascension.

“Everything I worked for, Biden wants to give to the immigrants to help them live, when they don’t do nothing but sit on their butts,” Mr. Smith said.
“And if those protesters come here, if they go tearing up stuff, I guarantee you they won’t be in this town very long,” he added. “We’ll string them up and send them out of here — and it won’t be the same way they came in.”
 

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