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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 17 Feb, 2017 12:42 am
@ossobucotemp,
Apparently, after having seen the full video of his press conference (and read the transcript in case that I misunderstood him), Trump lives in a parallel world whose borders are much higher than the wall he wants to construct against Mexico.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 17 Feb, 2017 02:21 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Do you know how much Mo is used to austenitize a ferrite cube?


I reckon at least two.

https://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/thumb/7/71/Mr._Snookums.png/250px-Mr._Snookums.png
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 17 Feb, 2017 02:35 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
. The closest I can get is imagining what Phillip K Dick might have come up with if he'd been asked to do the screenplay for Reefer Madness.


I like that analogy, don't know if I agree with it, but I like it. On Newsnight last night they wondered if he might be having a nervous breakdown. He does seem to be losing the plot, blaming the media for everything, and getting upset about how he's being portrayed. Being the head of a country means being attacked in the press, and he doesn't seem to be able to handle it.

Then they interviewed someone called Seb Gorka who had the weirdest accent I've ever heard. It sounded like he was trying to put on a posh English accent but it didn't work. According to his bio he was born over here, but that must have been a very long time ago.

He was mental, every time he was asked a question he'd scream "Fake News," although he never managed to explain how asking a question constitutes fake news. He was asked about the confusion over NATO and the two state solution in Israel, his response was that there was no confusion, and that media had an agenda. Then, he went on about Clinton and the election. It was bizarre, Dubya looks quietly dignified in comparison.
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NSFW (view)
Olivier5
 
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Fri 17 Feb, 2017 05:15 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
Clinton didn't see it as much of a problem.
That's a claim I don't accept. She did not use it as a key campaign strategy, for sure.

You must be kidding... Do you seriously think that someone who made millions of dollars delivering speeches to Wall Street and who had the biggest super-PAC during the last campaign could possibly have used campaign finance reform as a key campaign strategy??? She couldn't and wouldn't and didn't, because she benefits from the status quo.

In any case, your claim that "Stein and Sanders' followers seem to believe that a loud primal scream at injustice will do the trick" was condescending and wrong. You can't prove it, because it's just not true. Everybody knows it's difficult to do, and everyone knows that it will take character. It will take someone who is far more integer than Clinton was. PRECISELY someone like Stein or Sanders.
Brand X
 
  -2  
Fri 17 Feb, 2017 06:11 am
#neverchelsea
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 17 Feb, 2017 06:15 am
@camlok,
camlok wrote:
Nor does it mean that I don't understand, or that I am not capable of understanding.

Let's go with "not willing to learn".


camlok wrote:
Have you read FEMA, Appendix C yet? Have you seen the molten steel? Have you seen the molten metal pouring from WTC2?

You mean the molten aluminum?
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 17 Feb, 2017 06:17 am
@Olivier5,
Very good article.

Is the first movie supposed to be Hunger Games? They named the other two movies, which was not necessary for me because I'd seen them. They didn't name the first movie. Unfortunately whatever it is I've never seen it.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 17 Feb, 2017 06:18 am
@Olivier5,
Careful, if you get Blatham to a point where he'll have to think for himself, he'll get really nasty and vicious to divert the topic.
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hightor
 
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Fri 17 Feb, 2017 06:23 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Do you seriously think that someone who made millions of dollars delivering speeches to Wall Street and who had the biggest super-PAC during the last campaign could possibly have used campaign finance reform as a key campaign strategy??

Do you think someone who bragged about avoiding taxes and refused to divulge his tax returns could successfully use tax reform as a campaign strategy and capture the working class vote?

Not disagreeing with you, or even commenting on your discussion w/ blatham, but the electorate is often unobservant, easily hoodwinked, and fickle.

Stein? Boring.

Sanders? Old.

EDIT: Good article, too.
hightor
 
  4  
Fri 17 Feb, 2017 06:26 am
Never thought I'd still be seeing Bldg 7 discussions in 2017. Jesus H — take it to another thread, there are plenty of them. Or better yet, let it go.
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blatham
 
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Fri 17 Feb, 2017 06:35 am
@ossobucotemp,
Quote:
I'm mixed on Disney since family members worked for Disney way back when

Were they involved with the animation projects?
blatham
 
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Fri 17 Feb, 2017 07:06 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
In any case, your claim that "Stein and Sanders' followers seem to believe that a loud primal scream at injustice will do the trick" was condescending and wrong. You can't prove it, because it's just not true. Everybody knows it's difficult to do, and everyone knows that it will take character. It will take someone who is far more integer than Clinton was. PRECISELY someone like Stein or Sanders.

We've been over this stuff before. Even if I bought your notions re Clinton (and for the most part, I don't) "character" is profoundly insufficient in overcoming the structural disadvantages to any modern progressive candidate.

This mistake I was pointing to is imagining that any individual party leader, no matter how pure of character, will be the solution. That is a very similar hope held by Trump supporters who imagine Trump is pure in his "shake things up and then all will be better" motivations and that he can do what he promises.

But I think we might as well end off on this one as I don't see us resolving much.
blatham
 
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Fri 17 Feb, 2017 07:22 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Apparently, after having seen the full video of his press conference (and read the transcript in case that I misunderstood him), Trump lives in a parallel world whose borders are much higher than the wall he wants to construct against Mexico.

Quite something, wasn't it. It is impossible to ascertain what Trump actually believes is true because he has no internal moral mechanism that demands honesty in what he says to others.
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revelette1
 
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Fri 17 Feb, 2017 07:28 am
Trump family’s lifestyle is ‘logistical nightmare’ — at taxpayer expense

Quote:
On Friday, President Trump and his entourage will jet for the third straight weekend to a working getaway at his oceanfront Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla.

On Saturday, Trump’s sons Eric and Don Jr., with their Secret Service details in tow, will be nearly 8,000 miles away in the United Arab Emirates, attending the grand opening of a Trump-brand golf resort in the “Beverly Hills of Dubai.”

Meanwhile, New York police will keep watch outside the Trump Tower in Manhattan, the chosen home of first lady Melania Trump and son Barron.

And the tiny township of Bedminster, N.J., is preparing for the daunting prospect that the local Trump golf course will serve as a sort of northern White House for as many as 10 weekends a year.

Barely a month into the Trump presidency, the unusually elaborate lifestyle of America’s new first family is straining the Secret Service and security officials, stirring financial and logistical concerns in several local communities, and costing far beyond what has been typical for past presidents — a price tag that, based on past assessments of presidential travel and security costs, could balloon into the hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of a four-year term.
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revelette1
 
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Fri 17 Feb, 2017 07:32 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Too late too little but, I don't think he is fooling too many people other than hard core Trump fans and republicans slugging it out for the "team."
blatham
 
  2  
Fri 17 Feb, 2017 07:33 am
Some good news out of Washington State:
Quote:
A florist who refused to sell flowers for a same-sex wedding cannot claim religious belief as a defense under the state’s anti-discrimination laws, Washington’s high court said Thursday, in a case that has been watched around the nation by religious and civil rights groups.

The unanimous ruling by the nine-member state Supreme Court, which a lawyer for the florist said would be appealed to the United States Supreme Court, addressed sweeping questions about public accommodation, artistic expression and free speech.
NYT
layman
 
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Fri 17 Feb, 2017 07:35 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Blacks riot, Muslims set bombs, gays spread AIDS, Mexican cartels behead children, atheists tear down Christmas trees. Meanwhile, those liberal Lena Dunhams in their $5,000-a-month apartments sip wine and say, "But those white Christians are the real problem!" Terror victims scream in the street next to their own severed limbs, and the response from the elites is to cry about how men should be allowed to use women's restrooms and how it's cruel to keep chickens in cages.

Madness. Their heads are so far up their asses that they can't tell up from down. Basic, obvious truths that have gone unquestioned for thousands of years now get laughed at and shouted down -- the fact that hard work is better than dependence on government, that children do better with both parents in the picture, that peace is better than rioting, that a strict moral code is better than blithe hedonism, that humans tend to value things they've earned more than what they get for free, that not getting exploded by a bomb is better than getting exploded by a bomb.


I enjoyed that article you posted, Ollie. Quite insightful really, especially coming from someone who dislikes Trump.

He sure got the cheese-eaters down right in that excerpt I just quoted (and elsewhere in the article).
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blatham
 
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Fri 17 Feb, 2017 07:36 am
@revelette1,
With the briefing yesterday and the rally tomorrow, he's just trying to change the narrative. It's an attempt to reassert dominance.
revelette1
 
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Fri 17 Feb, 2017 07:39 am
@blatham,
Frankly I am amazed people wouldn't know that you can't discriminate against people for religious reasons anymore than you could for racial reasons. What if a Muslim refused to sell to a woman in the US because she is not wearing a veil? If a person can discriminate against a homosexual couple for religious reasons, then so can any other religious person discriminate for religious reasons, where would it stop? Who would be the authority over what it truly a religious reason and what is something someone just makes up?
 

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