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@coldjoint,

You dis Obama because he is black.

@coldjoint,

Obama's alleged "big lie" was "if you like your health care you can keep it", which was as it turned out true of 97% of people, which is pretty damned good for a political statement for a whole countriy. Trump on the other hand has produced some 15,000 absolute lies, untruths, misstatements, phony statistics, and pure inventions with no evidence backing them. He has made lying into a despicable art form.

trump on the other hand has procuced some 15000 lies, mistruths, whokppers, p

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@MontereyJack,

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He has made lying into a despicable art form.

Sorry the media beat him to it. The Democrats aren't too shabby either.

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@goldberg,

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You dis Obama because he is black.

I dis Obama because he is a traitor. Traitors, like everyone else, come in all colors. You are playing the race card and I am not playing cards with you.

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@coldjoint,

You have spent three years saying America simply does not have a serious
race problem and Obama was making it worse and dividing people. Millions of people are peacefully in the streets in some 650 communities all over the country, big and small, saying with one voice people like you are fools. It's the wisdom of the crowd.

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@MontereyJack,

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You have spent three years saying America simply does not have a serious race problem

I still say so. The media and politicians make it look worse by design. Communist progressive propaganda drives the narrative.

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@coldjoint,

which means the millions of people who dis your views are right. And you just went full into conspiracy theory mode.

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@MontereyJack,

Appeals to the crowd are a logical fallacy.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Obama's alleged "big lie" was "if you like your health care you can keep it", which was as it turned out true of 97% of people, which is pretty damned good for a political statement for a whole country.

Where did you get 97% from?

At any rate, forcing people off their health plans is contrary to a promise to let them keep their health plans.

And then there was a second lie, an attempt to minimize the first lie, where he said that he was only forcing people off from substandard plans.

MontereyJack wrote:

Trump on the other hand has produced some 15,000 absolute lies, untruths, misstatements, phony statistics, and pure inventions with no evidence backing them. He has made lying into a despicable art form.

Progressives always call the truth a lie. But it's not.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

You have spent three years saying America simply does not have a serious race problem and Obama was making it worse and dividing people.

America's only race problem is that progressives are racists who say that black people should be allowed to murder police officers and white people.

MontereyJack wrote:

Millions of people are peacefully in the streets in some 650 communities all over the country, big and small, saying with one voice people like you are fools. It's the wisdom of the crowd.

Appeals to the crowd are a logical fallacy.

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From the Guardian's UK diplomats fear end of special relationship if Trump re-elected

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[...]Sir Peter Westmacott, a former ambassador to Washington, said: “I would love to say, as we look to the future, would it not be nice to see political leadership also addressing old-fashioned principles such as accountability, respect for the rule of law, independent judiciary, telling the truth, institutional independence and indeed the importance of a free press?

“That may not be what public opinion is crying out for, but they are not very far removed from the principles that … Biden believes in. Otherwise the chances of the western world retaining any sort of moral leadership and giving itself the right to call out other people when they behave badly will be gone forever.”

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@MontereyJack,

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And you just went full into conspiracy theory mode.

It is not a conspiracy, it is a fact. The techniques being used by the progressives and the media are straight from the Communist handbook. Destroy religion. Destroy the family. Destroy the history.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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UK diplomats fear end of special relationship if Trump re-elected

That is what I like to call their problem.

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@goldberg,

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I just got carried away, sorry. I just want to say that you can't save America by looting America. Looting is a crime; taking a stand is not.

I see your point.

The trouble is that when people try to protest "peacefully" it gets met with the same bullshit.

Colin Kaepernick tried to protest peacefully.

One cannot protest more peacefully than he did.

How did that work out?

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

goldberg wrote:

I just got carried away, sorry. I just want to say that you can't save America by looting America. Looting is a crime; taking a stand is not.

I see your point.

The trouble is that when people try to protest "peacefully" it gets met with the same bullshit.

Colin Kaepernick tried to protest peacefully.

One cannot protest more peacefully than he did.

How did that work out?

I know that’s rhetorical, but as I remember it, he got fired and publicly excoriated by the POTUS.

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@MontereyJack,

Including his lie of his "beautiful new healthcare plan", better than Obama's. McConnell made the same promise - four years ago, too.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

The trouble is that when people try to protest "peacefully" it gets met with the same bullshit.
Colin Kaepernick tried to protest peacefully.
One cannot protest more peacefully than he did.
How did that work out?

It wasn't the peacefulness of his protest that upset people. It was the fact that he was calling for police officers to be prevented from defending themselves whenever a black person tries to murder them.

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@MontereyJack,

Have you ever noticed the only ones who ever use the expression "race card" are, you know what?

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@bobsal u1553115,

bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Have you ever noticed the only ones who ever use the expression "race card" are, you know what?

Using race as ammunition or a tool to leverage social-political power probably occurs much more among whites than anyone else, simply because whites implicity understand white privilege, so they can use white-guilt against each other effectively, and it obviously works seeing how Democrats pretty much rely on it exclusively to scare other whites away from the Republican party, which is ironic considering that the Democratic party was overtly known as 'the Dixiecrats' throughout most of its history.

Although a racist person might accuse a person of color of "playing the race card" as a racist tactic for discrediting them, there is actually a difference between honestly talking about issues of race and racism and just trying to use it as a tactic to manipulate arguments and/or gain social-emotional leverage.

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@livinglava,

Dixiecrats were Republicans who didn't want to be identified as Republicans. You really need to get your history from books and not 500 words or less RW blog posts.

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