@georgeob1,
Quote:georgeob: left wing advocates of extended government management and control of individual affairs
Me: To what, exactly, do you refer? Which individual affairs does someone like me wish to control?
georgeob
Quote:you can start with individual health care choices, parental choices for public education and charter schools, religious freedom, and gun ownership.
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individual health care choices
Here in BC, there is no restriction on which doctor I see. It's personal choice (as anywhere, subject to available doctors in your region who have additional patient capacity). If I'm not happy, I seek and see another.
Individuals earning more than $42,000 per year pay $75 monthly for all services - doctors and any hospital expenses. Medications are extra but are heavily subsidized for poor and seniors. I am on 6 meds, once or twice daily, and pay just over $1000 per year.
Everyone gets covered and treated. Poverty or financial distress become irrelevant.
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parental choices for public education and charter schools
The only restrictions here are related to geography with exception of choice options for French immersion or regular English-based schools and perhaps (I'm not sure) special needs requirements (though all schools try to build staffs to accommodate such students).
Some private schools are funded @50% or 35% of local school district rates. These schools must be non-profit operations, employ provincially certified teachers, have curricula consistent with provincial curricula and maintain adequate facilities.
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religious freedom
Here, you are speaking in the context of US culture and law. But I see the common claim there that religion is being throttled or freedoms curtailed to be deeply deceitful or misplaced at best. Churches aren't being closed down. Parishioners aren't being oppressed or maltreated by government (though minority faiths, particularly, can be due to citizen bigotry). Religious ideas or claims are commonly held up for examination and/or criticized but in that, they are like any other ideas, all of which ought to be subject to such criticism/debate. As an atheist, I don't feel any resentment when my position is challenged so long as the challenge is rational.
I suspect you wish to claim that religious groups ought to have the freedom to behave towards others as their ideology directs. But of course, that liberty is itself constrained in that it cannot imperil or constrain the liberty of others. I make no demand that women get abortions. I accept no constraint on women's right to make that choice, as an obvious example.
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gun ownership
You yourself will have limitations here. Guns aren't magically different from other weapons. You'd not deem it an offence to liberty if people are banned from walking into a school or restaurant with molotov cocktails or flame-throwers or machetes. You'd surely call the police if a pickup truck was slowly driving through your neighborhood with two men sitting in the back manning mounted machine guns. You'd not wish to see Home Depot running a special on 100 pound bags of ammonium nitrate. Pocket-size nukes would probably be on your list of things to ban. You'd likely object if the local mall had a booth selling improvised explosive devices.
So, no, I'm not compelled by your suggestion that any of these four example constitute unacceptable curtailment of citizens' rights.